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Vanity - Can DJT Leave a Cabinet Position Unfilled and Rule it by Decree?
Vanity ^ | 12/4/2024 | LRoggy

Posted on 12/04/2024 4:21:39 AM PST by LRoggy

I was wondering if the RINOs decided to gang up and not vote for the more important Trump supported Cabinet choices, what remedy could he have to keep those selections in charge.

Could he leave the slot open and announce his nominee is now a Special Advisor to him in charge of that department? Are there technical issues with that?

I'd rather leave a bunch of open vacancies than give in to the Establishment scum.

Would be enlightening to see if government works just as fine, and it would feed into the DOGE approach if little effect is seen.


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To: Vermont Lt

Yep, I should have written Manage Through That


21 posted on 12/04/2024 5:33:46 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business )
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To: LRoggy
Based on recent presidential activity, there don't seem to be any barriers.

Leave the position empty. An empty chair does not draw a paycheck.

Freeze all spending for that department by executive order.

 Go through the management levels until you find a qualified leader. Terminate the employment of everybody above that person along the way.

Have the new leader put up "going out of business" signs everywhere.

Eliminate that cabinet post and department in the next annual budget, which should be approved by Congress before 9/30/25, the end of this fiscal year.

22 posted on 12/04/2024 5:59:46 AM PST by Bernard ("Liberal Intellectual Incest". Goes along with employment in the Poverty-Industrial Complex.)
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To: tired&retired
The shortages for IGs is because no one wants the job. It's a dead end that requires the IG to cut political ties with the very people who got them that far.

No one wants to play bad cop in a political sewer.

23 posted on 12/04/2024 6:00:02 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Leaning Right

I wouldn’t take the inefficiency matter seriously; the only problem is that Trump becomes DIRECTLY rather than indirectly responsible for any poor decisions, governing or ethical matters. OTOH, An “acting” secretary usually is simply the number two guy, who still needs to be approved and may have gotten in with less scrutiny. Remember the #2 DOJ official who used his office to persecute Trump instead of prosecuting Obama-Biden-Clinton, once AG Sessions stepped aside?


24 posted on 12/04/2024 6:01:30 AM PST by dangus
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To: LRoggy

Instead of a Special Advisor or Acting Secretary, President Trump could just do what Obama and Biden did and essentially appoint that unelected/unconfirmed person to a “Czar” position.


25 posted on 12/04/2024 6:02:38 AM PST by mellow velo
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To: T.B. Yoits

If you’re saying that the Obama-Biden administration was simply shopping for a properly qualified individual, that is perhaps the stupidest thing I’ve ever read on the internet. And I’ve read debates on Democrat websites about whether the Flat Earth is true, or a Republican conspiracy to support Christianity. There are plenty of older people and the job is not SUPPOSED to be for your own lackeys.


26 posted on 12/04/2024 6:08:10 AM PST by dangus
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To: LRoggy
210 days.

https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/understanding-the-federal-vacancies-reform-act

The FVRA imposes two possible time limits on acting officials. The acting official may serve:

For 210 days starting when the vacancy occurs, or

While there is a first or second nomination for the office pending in the Senate.

When the first or second nomination is rejected by the Senate, withdrawn, or returned to the president, a new 210-day clock starts. This means that an acting official can serve well over a year under the FVRA if there is a nomination pending for the position.

While the FVRA covers most kinds of vacancies, there are some exceptions. For example, it does not apply to commissioners of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. The law’s time limits also do not apply to someone who is acting in a position because the regular job holder is temporarily absent due to illness.

27 posted on 12/04/2024 6:38:39 AM PST by stylin19a ("If You Can Read This, Thank a Teacher. If You Can Read It In English, Thank a Veteran" )
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To: stylin19a

Thank you

I hope DJT is telling those RINOs that if they don’t vote for confirmation, he goes ahead anyhow for 210 days and will publicly call out the ‘Nays’ as they do a great job.

Then he asks for another confirmation vote and openly throws down the gauntlet . . . Confirm or I keep going with them and you can explain it to your voters at home why success doesn’t matter to you.

Then prioritize those states for military base closures and other DOGE initiatives.


28 posted on 12/04/2024 6:43:39 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business )
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To: LRoggy

Trump could staff White House positions with people who sit in some executive branch agency/office, get requests for authorizations/approvals/commands from its staff, relays them to the White House and the White House issue orders to the agency/office concerned.


29 posted on 12/04/2024 6:56:05 AM PST by Wuli
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To: LRoggy

I like it... nominate and appoint at the same time...Senate declines, he/she is still there...210 day clock gets reset.
I wonder how long he has to wait to nominate someone ? He could probably sqeeze another 210 days out of it...


30 posted on 12/04/2024 6:56:25 AM PST by stylin19a ("If You Can Read This, Thank a Teacher. If You Can Read It In English, Thank a Veteran" )
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To: LRoggy
The President can assign Acting Secretaries. They cannot go the span of a recess appointment.

And this is Defense. DoD must have a Secretary confirmed asap -- they are 6th in the line of presidential succession, they are part of any Cabinet-enforced scenarios like 25A, etc.

31 posted on 12/04/2024 7:30:44 AM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: LRoggy

Acting secretaries that are appointed in the first 300 days do not have to be confirmed. They can serve for 210 days with a possible 210 day extension.


32 posted on 12/04/2024 7:33:27 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: LRoggy

Recess appointments can serve ~200 days, and then be extended another ~200 days


33 posted on 12/04/2024 7:46:00 AM PST by oil_dude
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To: dangus
If you’re saying that the Obama-Biden administration was simply shopping for a properly qualified individual, that is perhaps the stupidest thing I’ve ever read on the internet.

The stupidest thing you've ever read? That statement says a lot about you. Go back and read it again. "The shortages for IGs is because no one wants the job. It's a dead end that requires the IG to cut political ties with the very people who got them that far. No one wants to play bad cop in a political sewer."

At no point did I say the Biden Administration was "shopping for a properly qualified individual". They weren't shopping - because there's no one to pick from. They're desperately hoping candidates would apply. You have zero idea how desperately government agencies have been trying to fill some of these positions. Don't take my word for it, here are a few excerpts right from the "Top Management and Performance Challenges Facing Multiple Federal Agencies" published by the Council of The Inspectors General in 2023:

Human capital management remains a significant challenge that affects the ability of Federal agencies to meet their performance goals and execute their missions efficiently. GAO first identified strategic human capital management within the Federal Government as a high-risk area in 2001.

Many agencies have indicated that key drivers of attrition are retirement and limited opportunities for advancement and professional development. Attrition has resulted in a loss of institutional knowledge, subject matter expertise, and gaps in leadership. Retirement or departure of key management and senior employees highlights the importance of succession planning.

Federal agencies presently face competition from the private sector as increased wages and workforce engagement make private sector positions more attractive to new and established professionals. A common challenge emphasized throughout reporting agencies is the critical need to ensure the maintenance of a high-quality workforce capable of meeting mission-critical agency needs and, in turn, the needs of the American public. At the root of this challenge is a competitive labor market wherein multiple organizations are contending for the same limited pool of highly skilled candidates.

34 posted on 12/04/2024 9:40:26 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: LRoggy

One issue is that there are a bunch of laws that give specific grants of power to the Secretary of the various departments. Presumably, if there is no Secretary, those powers cannot be exercised.


35 posted on 12/04/2024 10:53:55 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Farcesensitive

HE can close down a number of “Cabinets”.

I expect EXACTLY THAT

EDUCATION

EPA MORE


36 posted on 12/04/2024 12:37:08 PM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: T.B. Yoits

I bet I could find 100 applicants in one night. But they won’t be democrat loyalists, and there’s the problem.

“You have zero idea how desperately government agencies have been trying to fill some of these positions”

Because they’ve made it 100% crystal clear that no-one but insiders are welcome.


37 posted on 12/04/2024 2:04:51 PM PST by dangus
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To: roving

There’s a limit on the length of time a person can serve in a position that requires senatorial confirmation without that confirmation. Matt Whitaker, who was excellent in his job, is an example. He had to leave.
Mitch McConnell slow walked Trump’s nominees doing only a certain number each day. Many had to wait for months I think some even years for confirmation.


38 posted on 12/04/2024 2:07:57 PM PST by Freee-dame ( )
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To: dangus
I bet I could find 100 applicants in one night. But they won’t be democrat loyalists, and there’s the problem.

Many of these vacancies started back in the first Trump administration.

39 posted on 12/04/2024 2:23:36 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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