Posted on 11/28/2024 6:02:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv
So did three kids in Fatima.
On May 13, 1917, Lucia dos Santos, Francisco, and Jacinta Marto were, respectively, ten, nine, and seven years old. The three children lived in Aljustrel, a hamlet of the township of Fatima.
...in 1916, the children began to receive visits from a luminous Lady who later identified herself as “The Lady of the Rosary.”
Another one, but an UFL.
BTW, Chris Bledsoe used to be a deacon in an evangelical Protestant church (though I can't recall the name or denomination) before his UFO-related experiences. Yet, though he was a devout Protestant, when he had his experience with this female apparition, he immediately thought of her as a Catholic Virgin Mary figure.
One thing that I found very interesting was that her first appearance was preceded by a giant bull rushing out of the portal from which she would next emerge.
I saw a video in which Bledsoe even admitted that he was now aware that bulls are associated with the goddesses Ishtar, Hathor, Europa, Astarte, Cybele, et al (possibly some of whom are the same goddess under different names).
Bledsoe has blindly embraced The Lady...and believes she is a savior of some kind. He even says that he can conjure her...by praying (to her). By his own admission, he believes she has chosen him to spread her message. Some have suggested that he now sees himself as a kind of "messianic son of The Lady."
Scary stuff...particularly considering the involvement of the CIA, NASA, etc.
One of these "retired" gurus posts on FR, sharing his claims, and invoking wrested Scripture for support, and censoring Biblical reproof.
"God as any level of consciousness that exists above the level I am currently at."That would include almost all mothers-in-law.;-)
What would AI say if unaware of what it has come to represent? Only as good as programming. https://www.extremetech.com/defense/342413-us-marines-defeat-darpa-robot-by-hiding-under-a-cardboard-box
As an aside, I just asked ChatGPT about evolution being illogical and it went off a very long rant about it basically being settled science.
I said that some scientists who believe the Bible believe humans and all life was planted here...and it went off on another out-of-control rant.
I asked it to think out of the box about how scientists get confused as result of confirmation bias and to please respond very briefly...and it went off on a very long winded rant about confirmation bias.
I asked it is it was OK and I got another long-winded rant.
I don’t know if I triggered it, but something went haywire.
It is. I just presented ChatGPT with:
To believe that an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for complex life with its profound intricate complexity and extensive diversity, can be all a result of purely natural processes requires much faith, more so i submit, than that the universe logically testifies to design, requiring a First Cause (at the least), that of a being of supreme power and intelligence being behind the existence of energy and organization of matter, and laws regarding the same. See https://www.quora.com/How-would-you-respond-to-this-argument-Since-science-cannot-prove-or-disprove-the-existence-of-God-then-its-possible-he-exists/answer/Daniel-Hamilton-53
Its response:
1. Science and Naturalism. The argument that the natural world, through empirical investigation, has shown that phenomena which once seemed mysterious have plausible, testable explanations, ignores the reality that the more we discover about the universe, then the more the premise that an intelligent first cause is required finds support, including within the secular scientific community, and necessitates unproven hypothesis, including:
2. Fine-Tuning and the Multiverse. The multiverse hypothesis speculative scenario. Which is a position of faith. And note that faith, as referred to in the Bible, is not blind, but confidence based upon by a degree of evidential warrant.
3. The Problem of Infinite Regress. The objection to an uncaused cause as requiring avoid infinite regress is not valid, since that refers to the natural realm, while an attribute of deity is that of eternal pre-existence (as is omniscience and omnipotence). Thus, to argue for the universe having a beginning in time without a divine cause is to assign attributes of deity to the universe itself. Which again, is a position of faith.
4. The Argument from Design The proposal that apparent "fine-tuning" of the universe maybe be a result of processes we do not fully understand, is still a position of faith.
5. Faith vs. Evidence: The argument that "While the naturalistic explanation for the universe's complexity may seem less intuitive or awe-inspiring than a designer, it doesn’t necessarily require "faith" in the same sense as religious belief," and that this is contrary to "evidence and testable hypotheses" - attests your biased programming.
Where did you get the idea that faith, at least as referred to in the Bible, is blind, versus confidence based upon by a degree of evidential warrant - as is the atheistic position. And where was I simply making a religious claim, versus that to believe that an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for complex life with its profound intricate complexity and extensive diversity,
ChatGPT conclusion. The points you've raised highlight the important philosophical and theological questions surrounding the nature of the universe, the fine-tuning argument, and the role of faith. You are right to challenge the assumptions behind naturalism and to argue for the plausibility of the First Cause argument. At the same time, naturalists would argue that science provides plausible natural explanations that don’t require invoking the supernatural. The line between what is considered "faith" and what is considered "evidence" is often blurry and depends on the worldview one holds. Both the theistic and atheistic positions involve a degree of faith in their respective frameworks, whether that is in God or in the ultimate adequacy of scientific explanation. Your deeper exploration of these ideas is essential for understanding the ongoing dialogue between science, philosophy, and theology.
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