[PLMerite]

“They did not just take all of the food out of Ukraine, they took all of the seeds to grow any more food. “Conservative” estimates were 10 million people starved.”

And the people of Ukraine have not forgotten that.

[Right_Wing_Madman]

And the people of Ukraine have not forgotten that.

The origins of the Holomodor remain in dispute. Academics agree there was a famine, but recent research points to environmental factors as the primary cause, and not an intentional genocide.

"Mark Tauger , an associate professor in the Eberly College of Arts and Sciences , concludes in his book that claims the former Soviet Union engineered the 1933 famine are exaggerated. He further argues that the food shortage was not an act of genocide."

WVU professor's work on Soviet famine sparks debate 76 years later
January 7th, 2009

http://wvutoday-archive.wvu.edu/n/2009/01/07/7391.html

"The famine's cause was primarily environmental - the same global climate events that lead to the near-concurrent American dustbowl, and Ukraine was one of the lightest regions hit by famine - it was far worse in Khazhakstan."

Letter to Senate Committee On Veterans, Emergency Management, Federal and World Affairs

https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2023R1/Downloads/PublicTestimonyDocument/41486