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Trump Can Speed Up the Inevitable in Ukraine
The New York Times ^ | Nov. 17, 2024, 1:00 a.m. ET | Megan K. Stack

Posted on 11/17/2024 2:58:53 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Locomotive Breath

Screw Ukraine. I don’t understand the idol worship of that corrupt third world country. Let the Euroweenies help them.

The US is suffering a brutal invasion of illegal alien terrorists and criminals. Mexico is assisting in the invasion. Mexico is our enemy, not Russia. The eighties are over.

Real Americans need to take to the streets for Vietnam style Anti-War protests.


41 posted on 11/17/2024 4:47:36 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (Demonrats aren’t Americans. )
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To: Magnum44
You’re like Fox News calling Arizona in 2020 before the polls even close.

But they got it right in 2024 and so will I :-).

42 posted on 11/17/2024 7:04:35 PM PST by icclearly
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“ Ukraine is not going to give up all its territory and drop its bid to enter NATO.”
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Certainly not while there are still enough UKRAINIANS left who are LIVING, NON-MAIMED AND WILLING TO DIE FOR THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT. Of course the number of Ukrainians who meet all three criteria is rapidly dwindling. Is that remaining number close to going below the critical mass needed to prevent collapse? Time will tell.


43 posted on 11/17/2024 7:10:06 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: AndyJackson

Ukraine is the now. Out history has nothing to do with it. Russia needs to give back land they are trying to steal.


44 posted on 11/17/2024 8:00:17 PM PST by POGO163
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To: TexasFreeper2009

They don’t have a choice.


45 posted on 11/17/2024 8:08:15 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Are you high? I’m asking seriously. There’s zero chance of that. Eastern Ukraine is Russians. They were being cleansed for years before intervention. Put the damn drugs down. Holy crap, I’ve seen some stupid stuff people post about this war and really, it’s not even our damn business. All the west succeeds in doing is getting more ukes killed. It’s damn evil.


46 posted on 11/17/2024 8:11:33 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Locomotive Breath

There’s no good to be had. West lied over and over too. We’re not the bloody good guys. This all just needs to end. We need to mind our own business.


47 posted on 11/17/2024 8:12:53 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Locomotive Breath

***Like the treaty to respect Ukraine’s borders if they gave up their nuclear weapons? Like that treaty. Russia is sooooo living up to that treaty.***

What treaty? Do you mean that Budapest thing again? That was never submitted to the US Senate for ratification. It was not binding on the US. It was a bill Clinton promise. We all know what Bill Clinton promises are worth.


48 posted on 11/18/2024 12:03:51 AM PST by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: POGO163

“It is important to kick Russia out and achieve both goals...”

You and what army, Mr. Ukrainian nationalist? The Yanks are not coming this time.


49 posted on 11/18/2024 12:06:12 AM PST by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: POGO163

Slouching towards Victoria Nulnds WWIII, I see, and you are utterly ignorant of what we did there.


50 posted on 11/18/2024 2:26:36 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Who is John Galt?

So why don’t we run the whole world spreading DEI and woke joy throughout the lands?


51 posted on 11/18/2024 2:32:12 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

52 posted on 11/18/2024 5:20:28 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes he did. And he’s wrong too. Any secession of land to Russia just proves to Putin that invasion pays. It would be a supremely stupid move.

While the US supports Israel involved in an existential fight, it ends support for Ukraine involved in another existential fight; the US rewards Russia for invading another country.

That move not only invites more of it from Russia, but also invites China to take Taiwan, & North Korea to take South Korea.

Lithuania & Poland next up, as soon as Russia rearms - connecting Kaliningrad to Belarus via the Suwałki Gap. Then on to the rest of Europe.

In short, if any one wanted to destabilize the world, the move to force Ukraine to cede territory to the Russian invaders is the move to make.


53 posted on 11/18/2024 7:14:46 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

I know! I know!

FJB should send nuclear-capable long range missiles to Z-Man and give him the green light to launch them deep into Russia!

Russia will have no way of knowing if they are nuclear-tipped or not and will launch nuclear missiles at NATO and the USA and you can at last have the global thermonuclear war that you have been cheerleading for!

I bet you are so excited you are peeing in your panties!


54 posted on 11/18/2024 11:00:28 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You are sick.


55 posted on 11/18/2024 11:08:19 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Says the war pig.


56 posted on 11/18/2024 11:09:29 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: rxh4n1

https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasion


57 posted on 11/18/2024 2:41:49 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: Who is John Galt?

Those arguments were made right up until Dec. 7, 1941. And prior to January 1917 as well. As a result, when both WW I and WW II started American was nearly completely disarmed.


58 posted on 11/18/2024 2:44:44 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

“I don’t understand the idol worship of that corrupt third world country.”

There is no “idol worship”. Simple historical knowledge. As the Fram oil filter commercial said so many years ago “You can pay me now (points to $3 oil filter) or you can pay me later (points to $400 engine rebuild).


59 posted on 11/18/2024 2:48:16 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: PIF

Correct. Let’s not teach Putin that crime pays.


60 posted on 11/18/2024 2:49:08 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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