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To: larrytown

Consider this: This is an example as to why we need a draft. Without some sort of “forced” discipline (so the individual learns personal discipline!) matched with “training” in this case “training” with basic education how can he\she ever be anything but a hoodlum.

Have a new draft law where this manpower pool is essentially a “reserve”. Make it very difficult to deploy in mass overseas for FedGov adventures. If the individual after “training” wishes to switch over to regular service subject to needs they can but it’s their choice.

Might be easier to do then actually getting state educational establishments to change.


27 posted on 10/14/2024 7:22:58 AM PDT by Reily (N)
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To: Reily

Worst idea ever, nothing personal.

You can’t make the bread better by spoiling the dough with bad yeast. Why treat the military like a reform school, when that is not it’s purpose?

On another note - if this was the middle of the road of a class of 120, who appears to have pretty much been absent for 2/3’s of his classes - how many ‘educators’ are being supported to teach the handful of kids even showing up?

Sounds like a bunch of ghost students, supported by ghost educators - everyone protecting their phony baloney jobs and not caring that they’re turning their own community into a cesspool. They get theirs, all that matters.


32 posted on 10/14/2024 7:30:21 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Reily

Forced conscription or mandatory military service has a checkered past, but it’s proven useful in societies where that discipline is seen as virtuous. Our “leaders” are doing everything they can to remove anything nationalist as virtue.

This article actually reminded me of Thomas Sowell’s book “Black Rednecks and White Liberals.” In it, he talked about the abolitionist movement in America and made a very interesting and thought-provoking point. The anti-abolitionists have been castigated as racists, but many anti-abolitionists had a larger concern than race when making the case against blanket emancipation. The biggest concern, and this was shared even by free blacks in the north, was the flood of illiterate slaves that would suddenly overwhelm institutions across the country. And guess what? They were right. Many black and white teachers saw it as a mission to move to the south, establish schools, and do everything they could to educate those masses. For some, it was a worthwhile endeavor, but for many, it was futile.

Slaves worked and had places to sleep. Were there some vicious, racist slaveholders? No doubt, but many slaves were regarded as an integral part of the slaveholder’s estate. Even Andrew Jackson’s oldest servant, “Uncle Alfred,” stayed at his estate, the Hermitage, after he was freed and later was the first head of the society dedicated to preserving it and Jackson’s legacy. George Washington, on his deathbed, demanded the unconditional freedom of all of his slaves even when it was considered an unpopular thing to do. Blacks would’ve been much better served to have been educated en masse, given the skills required to be productive members of society, before being just thrown into society with nothing. How was that any different than what we’re seeing today where kids come out of high school and can’t comprehend modern literature or even do simple math?

Blacks have been done a disservice in this country but not for the reasons the left state. Blacks in the early 20th century were substantially better off than they are today. They were allowed to run their own businesses and even schools. Sowell talks about black schools in the northeast where blacks overwhelmingly outperformed their white counterparts in local schools, but as soon as government got involved, things went downhill. Think about that. For all the alleged good the Democrats have done for blacks, how can anyone with an IQ over 80 say that blacks are better off now than they were even just 100 years ago?


37 posted on 10/14/2024 7:36:38 AM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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