[GranTorino]

So it would be nice if we won this time?
Not trying to pick a fight but history is history.

[central_va]

Secession is where this is headed. After the coming financial crises, massive inflation, naval war in the Pacific (which we lose) and Great Depression II. The people, especially Southerners will remember they wear ruby slippers of secession. "There is no place like your own country, out of the USA"