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Something Stinks in the Voting System
Vanity | 9/14/2024 | Self

Posted on 09/14/2024 5:20:53 AM PDT by CptnObvious

Something stinks in the voting system and I won't give a dime to ANY POLITICAL PARTY till it doesn't stink.

For the majority of people, our only participation in our government is our Vote. That's it, and when it seems like something or someone is playing with our votes, I TAKE NOTE. And when I'm told not to look at it, I GET REALLY MAD.

And I am really angry. Can you tell?

For years, the voting polls were projected. You went and voted and then watched the news about the projected polls. And, sometimes, even before the voting was finished that day, the news would say who the winner was, because there were not going to be enough votes the other way to make a difference.

I've voted for 50 years starting when I was first able at age 18. Then, about 12 years ago, something STRANGE HAPPENED. The Projected Poll winner was OVERTURNED. And I decided to look into it.

At about midnight, 12AM, after the vote day, votes started pouring in, and in the space of a few hours, IT WENT THE OTHER WAY.

The next voting cycle, it happened again, and I took note that it was going only towards one particular party than any another. Hmmm...

I looked into it. Apparently, despite the rules of the state, county, town etc. One could apply and vote the same day with no time to verify the address was to that precinct, state, township. Nor it turned out that they even had to sign for it despite the law saying it had to have a valid signature in our state.

Our legislature had said that if these rules were not followed those votes would not be counted. But they never were being excluded in time to make any difference.

Busses were coming out of state, out of the county, out of the township, with folks applying that same day. SO I KNEW THE VOTES OF THE VALID VOTERS WERE BEING DILUTED.

Trucks full of votes poured in around midnight with boxes and boxes of these same applied for and vote the same day, poured in.

And now the news was saying that we couldn't look into it as the voter rolls were sancrosact.

Well, guess what folks, I guess if you follow the rules, YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT and the ILLEGAL ONES DO.

Not one thin dime folks, not one, until this is Stopped!

Not one!


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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Apparently both parties are involved because nothing is being done about it.


Ding, ding, ding! We have our thread winner. Johnny, tell him about the great prizes he’s won.


21 posted on 09/14/2024 6:13:33 AM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: CptnObvious

The voting system in this country stinks almost as bad as the “justice system” and the border control system. INCOMPETENCE is another way of saying the U.S. “Government.”


22 posted on 09/14/2024 6:23:00 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (abc ! America's lower case far-left network.)
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To: CptnObvious
Its stunk for quite a while. From 2006...

Update: Is ‘vote flipping’ an e-voting problem or user error?

23 posted on 09/14/2024 6:33:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: CptnObvious

And please note, the rats have perfected a computer program that can actually flip a percentage of one candidate’s votes to another candidate. This has happed and will continue to happen. Let’s say Trump in a Wisconsin County gets 51% to commiela’s 46%, they can swipe 5% of Trump’s tally to go to commiela’s. Result: commiela with 51% and Trump with 46%. Boom! Easy peasy. And there is NOTHING we can do about it.

Wake up folks. Our elections are for the elites ONLY.


24 posted on 09/14/2024 6:34:15 AM PDT by HypatiaTaught ( Born Free, Live Free, Die Free)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

“”””Apparently both parties are involved because nothing is being done about it.””””


Yes, I agree with you. Republicans are involved and mainly because the Elite/RINO Republicans do not want Trump as President again.

The GOP is willing to let Kamala win just to keep Trump from the White House.


25 posted on 09/14/2024 6:35:57 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: airborne

“”””I had no idea the amount of texts, emails and constant bombardment of people asking for more, more more!

I won’t ever donate again!””””


I live in Florida and we have been inundated with telephone calls from CRUZ4SENATE.

When will the politicians come to their senses and realize that constant telephone calls and emails are a major turnoff for voters?

And I have not donated to the GOP for over 20 years because the last time I donated I was likewise bombarded with demands I send them more money.


26 posted on 09/14/2024 6:41:54 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: CptnObvious

There are several ways the US voting system can be improved to enhance security and reduce the potential for fraud, while also maintaining accessibility for voters. Here are some key recommendations based on the search results:

Improve voter registration and list maintenance:
-Implement computerized statewide voter registration lists that can communicate with other state databases to allow frequent exchanges and comparisons of information.
-Verify citizenship of voters by requiring proof of citizenship
-Register and verifying registered voters’ citizenship status with Department of Homeland Security records.:

Enhance voting security measures:
-Require voter ID for in-person and absentee voting, with free IDs provided to those who cannot afford them.
-Limit and secure absentee ballots by reserving them only for those who truly need them.
-Ban ballot harvesting/vote trafficking by third parties to prevent potential mishandling or coercion.
-Allow election observers full access to all aspects of the election process for transparency.:

Improve election administration:
-Prohibit early vote counting to avoid premature release of results.
-Provide state legislatures with legal standing to challenge unauthorized changes to state election laws.
-Create a more stable and well-trained election administration profession.:

Implement audits and verification:
-Conduct risk-limiting audits after elections to confirm results.
-Use voting systems that produce paper records that can be audited.:

Enhance voter confidence:
-Address voters’ concerns about election integrity through reforms that make it easy to vote but hard to cheat.
-Ensure voter registration lists are regularly updated and absentee ballots are secured.:

The key is implementing measures that enhance security and accuracy while still maintaining accessibility for eligible voters. Many of these reforms would require action at the state level, as states have primary control over election administration in the US system.


27 posted on 09/14/2024 6:48:48 AM PDT by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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To: CptnObvious
Before Ohio went to electronic registration and voting, each precinct was located individually. Even if multiple shared a room in a church or school, each precinct had it's own book of registered voters and sign in book where you signed your name and were given a voter number. Each precinct had its own ballots and voting booths because of Ohio's candidate name order randomization. Thus someone at the end of the day could get each precinct's vote count, excluding absentee and rare provisional votes for those who weren't in the registration book or who had asked for an absentee ballot but then voted in person. Thus anyone could get a count of ballots cast in each precinct and thus the county and the state.

Now multiple precincts share electronic voter rolls (probably all tied instantly to the county record) and signatures and ballot counts are not open for inspection. You can't come in to vote at 6:59 pm to see how many actually voted today. Add on early in-person voting and a greater push for absentee voting citizens have no way of checking how many ballots were cast other than trusting the Board of Elections' count. Transparency has been replaced by opacity.

28 posted on 09/14/2024 6:58:39 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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To: exnavy

And accelerated in 2008.


29 posted on 09/14/2024 7:07:48 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: mjp

Will NEVER happen in BLUE states/cities. 2016 was a fluke because they didn’t cheat hard enough after the DNC railroaded Bernie.


30 posted on 09/14/2024 7:12:05 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: CptnObvious

I have said this since O-bro was elected. A mass tax revolt. What are they going to do? Spend billions to lock everyone up? Where? Kill the hands that feed them?

Let’s get real. No one is going lift arms against the steal of our country. People talk big, but there will be no action, they will sit around and wait for someone else will do it. It would be futile anyhow.

The only way to win this will war will be inaction rather than action. We are already halfway there since we will not lift a finger. So at this point it is time to go all in and stop feeding the beast also.

We are their slaves, labor, and collateral. Without us they are powerless. Without us funding this fiasco their credit rating will collapse. We the slaves are the only reason they can keep borrowing. We are their collateral and we the collateral becomes worthless the global banks will stop lending.

This is the one strength and possibility they fear most. If we just say no and stop
Feeding the beast it will starve to death. What can we lose? Who wants to live in the world they have planned for us anyhow?

And the time is now, before it gets any worse. Should have been done as soon as they stole the last election. There is only one peaceful way out now. Let them come, time to call their bluff and make them show their cards.

It is time for some old school mass civil disobedience.


31 posted on 09/14/2024 7:17:45 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: CptnObvious

https://fightvoterfraud.org/


32 posted on 09/14/2024 7:22:34 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: CptnObvious
If the powers wanted it to be secure and right they could make it so just like they did in Iraq when our military managed the vote. Same for debates that are not debates, they could be right and useful if someone wanted them to be so. There was more process and integrity of process in the high school debate contests I participated in 50 years ago. They don't want things right on either count. The question is, WHY?

What is worse though is that the "they" was supposed to be us and we no longer matter. Instead of by the people and for the people and governance granted by the governed we have become little more than a rubber stamp of endorsement whether we like it or not. Our vote is more sham than direction. That supreme power being taken and held instead of given and sustained by the people is apparent from screwl boards to shitty councils, to police to any government agency you can name and they need to be relieved of their posts soon and quickly. I can still dream, can't I? Or is that now a prohibited activity as well?

I do not buy into Trump's playing 4D chess with the oppositions minds. His refusal to debate is short sighted. He should challenge the whore to a true debate with real but standard rules and questions submitted by both parties at the same time live just as the debate begins. Then, let her decline.

33 posted on 09/14/2024 7:33:53 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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To: exnavy
It started way more than 12 years ago. It started on the 1960 presidential vote.

I am positive, if you look back, Dewey really did defeat Truman.

34 posted on 09/14/2024 7:38:37 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!)
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To: AbolishCSEU

To Big to Cheat—Red Wave is coming and it will sweep populist views into congress, state governorship’s and the White House. Progressive Leftist ideals have failed—they bit off too much with woke and Climate change—boosted into power by Covid panic. Harris and Walz are symbolic of them and their failure to rule. Change will come—BUT, will it be enough to stop the slow decent of America? We can but hope. If the rigged forces Harris “victory” upon the nation—if could lead to Civil War and the horrors that would follow. Let wiser heads rule. Let Trump get his last four years. Maybe he can work his magic wand?


35 posted on 09/14/2024 7:39:05 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell, War IS a Crime.)
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To: CptnObvious

I have always deferred to the old adage “A fool and his money are soon parted”. I don’t know who said it, but whoever it was seems like a very wise man to me. Any organization you join from a political party to a gun rights group and even some churches will hound you for money. Your original cost and annual cost of membership or even just your vote is never enough for any of them. And God help you if you choose to donate even a small amount to them as you will be swamped with requests for more continuously.


36 posted on 09/14/2024 7:43:11 AM PDT by Clarancebeaks
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To: CptnObvious

This country is under a very serious biblically God challenged IF.


37 posted on 09/14/2024 7:58:25 AM PDT by right way right (“May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope”)
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To: Sequoyah101

Why do some of you persist on debates? They don’t move the needle hardly at all. She wants another debate because she failed to address the issues. Why give her another chance?

Make Kamalahave do do interviews an actually speak off the interviews, not planned scripted nonsense.

It isn’t 4 D chess. It is common sense that the debates are over.

Trump’s message actually won that debate. His closing statement got 3x the listeners that her’s did.


38 posted on 09/14/2024 8:03:24 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

correction “off the cuff interviews”


39 posted on 09/14/2024 8:04:45 AM PDT by dforest
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To: CptnObvious

Our alleged “representatives” have done nothing.
Almost like they want communist rule.


40 posted on 09/14/2024 8:24:15 AM PDT by ShawnShawntheLeprecaun
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