[Penelope Dreadful]

Dream on, Dude. They are the same thing. As if, you didn’t know. Once again, from Wong Kim Ark:

“The foregoing considerations and authorities irresistibly lead us to these conclusions: the Fourteenth Amendment affirms the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of the country, including all children here born of resident aliens, with the exceptions or qualifications (as old as the rule itself) of children of foreign sovereigns or their ministers, or born on foreign public ships, or of enemies within and during a hostile occupation of part of our territory, and with the single additional exception of children of members of the Indian tribes owing direct allegiance to their several tribes. The Amendment, in clear words and in manifest intent, includes the children born, within the territory of the United States, of all other persons, of whatever race or color, domiciled within the United States. Every citizen or subject of another country, while domiciled here, is within the allegiance and the protection, and consequently subject to the jurisdiction, of the United States. His allegiance to the United States is direct and immediate, and, although but local and temporary, continuing only so long as he remains within our territory, is yet, in the words of Lord Coke in Calvin’s Case, 7 Rep. 6a, “strong enough to make a natural subject, for if he hath issue here, that issue is a natural-born subject;” and his child, as said by Mr. Binney in his essay before quoted, “if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle.”

BTW, this response is NOT really to You, because you guys are like Sovereign Citizens, and there is no amount of logic, reasoning, or legal holdings that will ever change your mind.

This is for anybody foolish enough to not know better, and who thinks you guys know what you are talking about. Which, you don’t.

Two citizen parent birthers equal sovereign citizens lite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAumt46ocyc&t=16s

[Vermont Lt]

Amen.

[Macho MAGA Man]

So you agree that two filthy non English speaking foreign national wetbacks, who’ve never heard of the Constitution, can cross the border and drop a baby on American soil can be eligible to a President in the future?

[philman_36]

...“if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural-born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle.” Oh, look! Someone else who doesn't understand that naturalized citizens have the same rights and privileges AS a natural born citizen...with the exception of running for POTUS/VPOTUS.

[DiogenesLamp]

As soon as I saw your message I said "Let's see if this bubblehead put "sovereign citizen" in her comment.

I scanned through it, and sure enough near the bottom I saw your favorite straw-man "Sovereign Citizen."

Yeah, not the same thing.