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To: RoosterRedux

Again, no where in there does it say convert

Would I be allowed to convert someone? You, for instance? I wouldn’t know how to start. I would have to judge that you are more ignorant that me on the Gospel. I wouldn’t ever attempt to do that

You would to me, you already have done so.

No where in the Bible does it say you’re more Christian than I am


87 posted on 09/07/2024 8:04:03 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

The key point you’re missing, or choosing to ignore, is that it is God Who moves to save someone. He uses people, like Paul, the disciples, folks on this forum, to witness to people....that is to share the Gospel and how one is saved.


90 posted on 09/07/2024 8:06:25 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: stanne
Perhaps there is some difference of opinion about how the word "convert" is defined here (not by you specifically, but people in general).

We Christians are commanded to participate in the conversion process by spreading the Gospel. Then, the actual "conversion" is initiated and made possible by the work of the Holy Spirit, who convicts the person of their need for salvation, illuminates their understanding of the Gospel, and draws them into faith.

While the individual responds to the hearing of the Gospel by choosing to follow Christ (and we are indeed commanded to spread the Gospel for the purpose of conversion), the deeper theological perspective emphasizes that it is ultimately the Holy Spirit who brings about the conversion by regenerating the heart and enabling faith.

This aligns with scriptures like John 6:44, where Jesus says, "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them," pointing to divine involvement in the conversion process.

Thus, conversion is the result of humans spreading the Gospel with the goal of conversion in mind (as commanded), the human response that a person has upon hearing it, and a supernatural work of God.

119 posted on 09/07/2024 9:04:54 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (Thinking is difficult. And painful. That’s why many people avoid it.)
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