Posted on 09/06/2024 9:30:33 AM PDT by Red Badger
Thanks! The chutes do have a long history of working right, so, I don’t really blame NASA for erring on the side of caution as it does most of the time. Also the chutes have a fixed mass. After this Starliner thrusters mess these capsules will no doubt remain that way.
Starship’s propulsive landing capability will be needed for the resumption of manned lunar landings and return to Earth. I doubt that SpaceX is going to wait for NASA funding to do it.
But after my initial post (#14) re seeing the headline as
NASA prepares for Boeing Starliner's unscrewed return to Earth
The positive waves and Messianic signage started free-flowing like crazy from every direction, so 'miracle save' was the big vibe suddenly coming my way.
Years of data (collected since 2015 in this case) started lining right up. The effect reminded me of the MRI story yesterday out of Mountain View, of the equipment simply doing what it does naturally. There was no going back for that wheelchair.
I'm barely scratching the surface here without posting the massive background info/inspiration, but it would never be enough for the already-decideds anyway. For documentation and future reference:
Suny (Sunita) named this Starliner "Calypso" on December 22, 2019, upon first landing. 24 Kislev, 5780.
Starliner [סטארליינר] -- (= 570) mainly derived from "star"
Calypso [קליפסו] -- (= 286) named for Jacques Cousteau's research ship which had been named for Calypso:
The name Calypso derives from the Ancient Greek καλύπτω (kalyptō),[2][3] meaning 'to cover', 'to conceal', or 'to hide';[3][4] as such, her name translates to 'she who conceals'.[5] According to the medieval dictionary Etymologicum Magnum, her name means 'concealing the knowledge' (from Greek: καλύπτουσα το διανοούμενον, romanized: kalýptousa to dianooúmenon), which – combined with the Homeric epithet δολόεσσα (dolóessa, meaning 'subtle' or 'wily') – justifies the reclusive character of Calypso and her island.[6]
(The name crisscrosses with words like crypt, crypto, grotto, grave, cave, cavern.. on and on into instruments named in reference to a soundbox).
In related views, voices rise from the crypts all of the time:
A sound box or sounding box (sometimes written soundbox) is an open chamber in the body of a musical instrument which modifies the sound of the instrument, and helps transfer that sound to the surrounding air.
"Starliner Calypso", compared to "Esther":
Esther [אסתר] means "star" and "I will be hidden". The word for a scroll (megillah) is rooted in revealing as in an unrolling/rolling/wave, which is why the full name of the Megillah (Megillat Esther) is described as the "revealing of the hidden".
The Book of Esther (Hebrew: מְגִלַּת אֶסְתֵּר, romanized: Megillat Ester; Greek: Ἐσθήρ; Latin: Liber Esther), also known in Hebrew as "the Scroll" ("the Megillah"), is a book in the third section (Ketuvim, כְּתוּבִים "Writings") of the Hebrew Bible.
The Megillah [המגילה] = 93
Ride the wave:
Mission duration Planned: 8 days
Capsule Final: 93 days, 13 hours, 9 minutes
Crew: 93 days, 17 hours, 28 minutes
When trying to pull up the lyrics for the key passages, Google's default kept appearing in Dutch for some odd reason. I'd never seen that, but I wasn't going to hit the lyrics sites which are notoriously riddled with viruses and sketchy code.
Bing provided:
To sail on a dream, on a crystal clear ocean
To ride on the crest of a wild raging storm
To work in the service of life and the living
In search of the answers to questions unknown
To be a part of the movement, part of the growing
Part of beginning, to understand
Aye, Calypso, the places you've been to
The things that you've shown us, the stories you tell
Aye, Calypso, I sing to your spirit
The men who have served you so long and so well
Perhaps AI got all discombobulated because John Denver's surname was Deutschendorf by birth, and the Pennsylvania Dutch aren't Dutch.
What else gets misapprehended in translation -- lost in the woods -- that we *don't* know about? It's Always Something.
Calypso made her own way back to shore -- alone, but she's in good shape for the shape she's in!
‘unscrewed return’ LOL
[snip] ...the ground tests have only identified the problems, and these are all things that should have been figured out during engineering and development...
If they send the craft back to Earth uncrewed and it fails (as seems likely) NASA will have to suspend the contract for the crewed flights until the craft (already delayed a few years) has its bugs ironed out.
If uncrewed automated landing(propulsive, on land)actually succeeds, sending the crew down in a different craft -- by a competitor -- will have been the right move but make them look like they can't get the job done.
Of course, if they send the crew aboard Starliner for return to Earth and it works, it will look more like gambling with their lives than it will look like a success. [/snip]NASA Might Delay Upcoming Crew 9 Mission to Return Stranded Starliner Astronauts to Earth [me, post #23, 8/6/2024, 10:04:31 AM]
Good thing the two Boeing test flight crew are being paid by the hour for their flight time this time.
8<)
Now that their ride is gone, they’re off the clock. Hey, someone has to take the blame for the screwup! ;^)
I had neglected to include the link that contained the mission length data:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Crew_Flight_Test
It turns out the “crew” info was changed since I posted , so now it says:
Mission duration Planned: 8 days
Capsule Final: 93 days, 13 hours, 9 minutes
Crew: 93 days, 20 hours, 46 minutes
I don’t know what that “crew” time even means (compared to the capsule’s) but it’s probably in the wall of text somewhere.
Kind of weird, though... I’d think the crew time would be the capsule’s total mission time less the journey home alone time, but it’s longer, and got longer from this morning after it returned,
Crew: 93 days, 17 hours, 28 minutes
??? One of those mysteries of life that has to be taken on faith.
Maybe if I check the page edits that occurred right after landing, the times are ~ the same; i.e. the crew time is a clock still running. A crew without its capsule.
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There are a few overlapping wiki pages for Starliner, including this other one:
Boeing Starliner Calypso (Spacecraft 3) is a space capsule manufactured by Boeing and used in NASA’s Commercial Crew Program. On 20 December 2019, Calypso launched on the Boeing Orbital Flight Test mission, an uncrewed test flight of Starliner to the International Space Station.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Starliner_Calypso
Aka “Spacecraft 3” (who can keep up anymore?), which pulled in Esther yet again because
ESTHER <-—> THREES
That being the case, with the letter “s” in “unscrewed” having inspired this whole mess...
I couldn’t help but notice:
SPACECRAFT 3 -—>
SPACECRAFT THREE —>
PACE-CRAFT THREES
Or PACE-CRAFT ESTHER, as it were.
“Starliner Calypso” as Esther makes plain sense already as previously posted.
She did have a way of plotting things out, all in the timing. Esther — concealed out in the open as queen, yet the Dark Side never saw ‘it’ coming.
Meanwhile, the expected sudden appearance of T Corona Borealis has people on edge this month. 🤔
“Any day now.”
“The thrusters performed fine in the delicate exit operation from the ISS.”
Yep, Starliner made it back. What’s really heartbreaking is that The Boeing Company of numerous innovative aircraft and spacecraft designs doesn’t exist anymore. Boeing is just an empty shell of its glory days.
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