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I watched the whole thing last nite

He’s not a Churchill fanboy like me

But he’s not a holocaust denier and also supports Jews and their homeland objectively often on his podcasts

Of course it’s never enough

That’s impossible

These attacks are used to hurt Tucker

And those pimping it here are lackeys for that aim

What we’re facing in two months and this is what these jackasses focus on

Of course if u check posting history of most

Well it’s no surprise

It’s why they are here

I think very highly of Churchill and yes, I would also consider myself a “fanboy” of his. But I also recognize, and always have once I learned about him, he was a flawed man.

But all his flaws also contributed to the man he was. And that is, I believe, true for every single one of us. And I don’t see that as a disqualifying thing for Churchill’s greatness.

I have often viewed General George S. Patton the same way. He had his flaws as well. But those flaws are also what made him a great man.

We all have flaws. In some people, those flaws end up making them evil. In other people, those flaws contribute towards making them who they are, and great.

And there are those of us who are neither evil nor great, but who we are is not just determined by the good and constructive things we do. The mistakes and bad things we have done or experienced also factor into it. If we are lucky, we try to learn from them or adjust to them if we cannot shake those bad traits off.

If we are unlucky, they control us and influence in a bad way who we end up being. For many out there, it can be a touch and go thing, and I think we all have seen people who are ruled by their flaws, and end up badly for themselves and those around them.

Churchill was so eccentric in some respects I have no doubt there are people who thought him mad.

(I will try to relate something I read many years ago, I may have the details wrong, but the overall flavor is, I think, correct) I read an account one time of a meeting where some British inventor was proposing some substance as armor of some kind (I think it was right before D-Day, but I could be wrong, it was a long time ago) and was giving a demonstration of the substance to a small group of men (maybe six or seven?) were high profile, Churchill, top Generals and such, and they had been having drinks before the demonstration at lunch or something.

When the guy put on the demonstration, he was so enthusiastic that he pulled out a pistol and handed it to Churchill who was standing near the block of material, and said something like “Shoot it! You can see for yourself how well it can protect against gunfire!” So Churchill, having a few drinks in him and with the similarly inebriated approval of the others, immediately pointed the weapon and fired it at the material!

It ricocheted all over the room, and in accounts of it people say it was a miracle none of those high profile people were injured or killed.

When I read that, I remember clearly visualizing the scene in my mind and thinking (based on what I then knew of Churchill) “Yeah. I could see that.”

The point is: for me, there was something so human and relatable to me in that rashness that it made me identify more directly with Churchill than otherwise I might have done. Same for Patton.

And same for Trump.

“But he’s not a holocaust denier”

Cooper said something along the lines that the massive camp deaths were the result of “a lack of planning” rather than by intent.

But that’s just not so. We have notes that one participant took at the Wannsee Conference where the “Final Solution” was decided upon. It was intentional mass murder.

Wannsee took place in January 1942 shortly after Germany declared war on America.

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/wannsee-conference-1942

But what about the killings during Operation Barbarossa which began six months earlier? Were they due to lack of planning?

No. They weren’t due to lack of planning. Barbarossa included mobile SS death squads, the Einsatzgruppen, which followed behind the front line expressly to kill the various “subhumans” unlucky enough to find themselves within reach of the SS. Some of these SS units were composed of non Germans who willingly joined.

Ok, but Barbarossa was 1941; the war began with the attack on Poland in September 1939, so maybe Cooper is right that this murder of civilians wouldn’t have happened if Churchill hadn’t decided on war with Germany.

Right? No. He’s wrong again. The Einsatzgruppen mobile killing squads already existed in 1939 and they tagged along behind the German army in that invasion too.

Cooper is either astoundingly ignorant of the history that he’s discussing or he’s offering easily disproven excuses for a gangster regime controlled psychopaths. The SS looked for recruits who could prove that they had committed an act of cruelty against the German people. Not just against German Jews, against any German.