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To: ridesthemiles

“A natural born citizen is a person who became a U.S. citizen at birth and did not need to go through a naturalization proceeding later in life.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen#:~:text=A%20natural%20born%20citizen%20is,naturalization%20proceeding%20later%20in%20life.

I don’t write the laws. And the founders didn’t write the 14th either as they were all dead when the 14th was created. Natural born means having at birth the legal status of citizen. (Webster)

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55 posted on 08/22/2024 3:43:30 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: whitney69

“A natural born citizen is a person who became a U.S. citizen at birth and did not need to go through a naturalization proceeding later in life.”

Here’s the issue: Both 14A §1 Birthright Citizens and Art. II, §1, Cl. 5 Natural-born Citizens are persons who became U.S. citizens at birth and do not need to go through a naturalization proceeding later in life.

A separate legal effect: While 14A §1 Birthright Citizens are subject to foreign sovereignties at birth, natural-born Citizens are not, being born exclusively from Citizen-parents.


58 posted on 08/22/2024 6:17:42 AM PDT by batazoid (Trump Must Sue)
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To: whitney69
Natural born means having at birth the legal status of citizen.

No it doesn't, and I can show you several examples of this. Aldo Mario Bellei comes to mind.

"Natural born citizen" means you are a citizen naturally, and do not require any law or manmade statute to be a citizen.

You don't need a naturalization law to be a citizen, you don't need a constitutional amendment like the 14th to be a citizen, you are a citizen through the operation of nature and of natural law.

You may be shocked to learn that there were natural born citizens before there were any laws to create "citizens."

So how can the two things be the same?

61 posted on 08/22/2024 7:53:28 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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