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To: sten
in which case definitions and the law doesn’t matter.

Speaking of definitions, here are 52 of them in the law.

USC 8 Sec. 1101
(3) The term "alien" means any person not a citizen or national of the United States
(23) The term "naturalization" means the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth, by any means whatsoever.
(such as one of the several States of America issuing a birth certificate to a child of two aliens, perhaps? hmmmmm)

Those two are a couple of my favorites. Here are two more...
(21) The term "national" means a person owing permanent allegiance to a state.
(such as "foreign" national? hmmmmmmm)
(22) The term "national of the United States" means (A) a citizen of the United States, or (B) a person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States.

202 posted on 08/23/2024 2:08:04 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: sten
Here is something to really twist your noggin.

(3) The term "alien" means any person not a citizen or national of the United States
(22) The term "national of the United States" means (A) a citizen of the United States...

Why isn't the definition of alien just...not a national of the United States?
(3) The term "alien" means any person not a citizen or national of the United States...

203 posted on 08/23/2024 2:19:34 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

you can have 500 civil codes written up to say Americans cannot have any guns at all...

on the books for decades...

and they’d all tossed the moment it’s brought to the supreme court.

no different than minting ‘Americans’ via the magic pixie dust of American soil.


206 posted on 08/23/2024 5:32:57 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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