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A Constitutional Question
Aug 14, 2024 | MosesKnows

Posted on 08/14/2024 4:40:40 PM PDT by MosesKnows

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My answer is that the people rejected the Constitution unless the Framers agreed to add clauses further restricting government power.

What is your answer?

1 posted on 08/14/2024 4:40:40 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows

Was dubbed the Bill of Rights <~~ first ten Amendments


2 posted on 08/14/2024 4:43:42 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: no-to-illegals
That's true, what is the answer to the question?
3 posted on 08/14/2024 4:46:36 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: no-to-illegals
That's true, what is the answer to the question?
4 posted on 08/14/2024 4:47:30 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows

Simple answer is that...

The Constitution is unconstitutional because...

it wasn’t put to a vote by the people. ;)


5 posted on 08/14/2024 4:50:45 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: MosesKnows

Was ratified after * Bill of Rights * was inserted. Rejected by the states representatives prior.


6 posted on 08/14/2024 4:51:56 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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"what is the answer to the question?"

I don't know....but I've heard a lot of folks lit out for Canada right after the war.. So, maybe they didn't like the idea of a Constitutional Republic..

7 posted on 08/14/2024 4:53:34 PM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: MosesKnows

These days, you have NO STANDING to pose the question.


8 posted on 08/14/2024 4:58:44 PM PDT by workerbee (==)
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To: MosesKnows

They accepted the “package” of the Constitution and the amendments.


9 posted on 08/14/2024 4:59:14 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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The Federalist Papers played a large role in educating the public about forming our government. The Articles of Confederation was a disaster.


10 posted on 08/14/2024 5:13:20 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!s)
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To: Vermont Lt
They accepted the “package” of the Constitution and the amendments.

Rhode Island rejected it at least twice, if I recall properly. They only ratified it after representatives of Congress threatened to block all trade with Rhode Island, so they ratified it under threat, but they also included the language used in Virginia and New York's ratifying statements to the effect they could take back their powers given up to the central government.

Rhode Island also sent no representation to the Constitutional convention.

11 posted on 08/14/2024 6:36:22 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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The Federalist Papers played a large role in educating the public about forming our government. The Articles of Confederation was a disaster.

What particular disaster did it cause?

The US Constitution turned out to be an overreach of power. Articles of Confederation made it a lot harder for the Government to do things, but that's a good thing in my opinion. Today the government does far too much.

12 posted on 08/14/2024 6:38:27 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: no-to-illegals

I’m trying to figure out how a few pages of the constitution and Bill of rights resulted in millions of pages of laws, rules and regulations, most of which violate the constitution.


13 posted on 08/14/2024 7:00:57 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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Did the people accept or reject the Constitution when offered for ratification?

The Constitution was a construct for the States, and only indirectly, the People. So, strictly speaking, no.

We were not founded as the 'United People of America', but founded as the 'United States of America'.

Then, some fools mucked around with the setup, 17th amendment for example, and made the federal side do thousands of things, when we as states only enumerated a dozen or so things the federals could do.

14 posted on 08/14/2024 7:02:44 PM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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The United States Constitution was ratified on June 21, 1788, when New Hampshire became the ninth state to ratify it. The process was established in Article VII of the Constitution, which stated that the Constitution would be established between the states that ratified it once nine states had done so. The Confederation Congress then set March 9, 1789 as the date for the new government to begin operating under the Constitution. Rhode Island was the last state to ratify, on May 29, 1790, after initially rejecting it.


15 posted on 08/14/2024 7:11:54 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (2 coups in less than 4 years. America is truly a first world Banana Republic.)
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“Did the people accept or reject the Constitution when offered for ratification?”

Yes, they did.


16 posted on 08/14/2024 10:03:34 PM PDT by samiam5
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To: Vermont Lt

The constitution is a social contract that’s been since broken so many times that it’s no longer recognizable. The delegates were elected by the landowners of the colonies who had a stake in the outcome. There was a time when you had to earn the right to vote, it was a privilege. Not taken for granted as it is today. The anti-federalist delegates were not on board. They fought to add language that caused the powers and authority of federal government authority to be restrained, restricted, contained to the specifically enumerated powers. There’s nothing in the constitution that provides for implications or interpretations. The language is clear and concise. Any powers that’s not specifically enumerated go to the States who have their own powers and constitutions. The 17th Amendment broke the constitution by muting the voice of the state legislatures. Taking away the balance that the anti-federalists fought for. It grants the ultimate authority to the mob. Without the voice of the states, the constitution will remain broken, or out of balance until it is restored.


17 posted on 08/15/2024 3:05:19 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

RI has always been a bunch of malcontents. Ha Ha.


18 posted on 08/15/2024 5:01:12 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: no-to-illegals
Was ratified after * Bill of Rights * was inserted. Rejected by the states representatives prior.

Thank you for the first response I agree with.

I had never given it much thought until I heard a 1941 radio broadcast celebrating the 150th anniversary of our Bill of Rights. We Hold These Truths, a celebration of the 150th anniversary of the United States Bill of Rights, was an hour-long radio program that explored American values and aired live on December 15, 1941, the first to be broadcast on all four major networks. It was written and produced by Norman Corwin, who won a Peabody Award for the show, which commemorated the ratification of the Bill of Rights on December 15, 1791.

We Hold These Truths

19 posted on 08/15/2024 6:07:02 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: Vermont Lt
RI has always been a bunch of malcontents. Ha Ha.

I tend to be a bit contrarian myself, and the more I learned about them, the more I liked them! :)

20 posted on 08/15/2024 6:35:08 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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