[bigbob]

I’ve used all those desktops and I just don’t get excited about this stuff. Most are fine, some suck, mostly if I have to look very hard to find what I know is there. (Which is why the first thing I install on every Windows PC since Win 7 is “Classic Shell”, fie on M$!)

To me, if I’m “immediately welcomed by a clean and familiar desktop setup” I change the OS if it annoys me enough. Not something I’m going to write rave reviews about either way. If someone produced a desktop called “Meh” that would probably be my favorite.

[daniel1212]

I’ve used all those desktops and I just don’t get excited about this stuff. Most are fine, some suck, mostly if I have to look very hard to find what I know is there. (Which is why the first thing I install on every Windows PC since Win 7 is “Classic Shell”, fie on M$!)

Yes, “Classic Shell" for efficency. Partial view:

Plus 7+ Taskbar Tweaker along with Explorer Patcher that restores the Windows 11 taskbar to be like but better than default Windows 10.