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To: CDR Kerchner; All
Thank you for referencing that article CDR Kerchner. Please note that the following critique is directed at the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties that have pirated control of state and federal governments.

"The Natural Born Citizen Conundrum"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

The so-called Natural Born Citizen Conundrum may be deliberate smoke and mirrors.

More specifically, I looked for all references to John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, in the referenced article, but could not find the excerpt below from his writings. It appears to be a short list of categories of official United States laws, Jay including the Law of Nations in the list.

Excerpted from the writings of Chief Justice John Jay:

"That you may percieve more clearly the Extent and objects of your Inquiries, it may be proper to observe that the Laws of the united States admit of being classed under three Heads or3 Descriptions—
"1st. all Treaties made under the authority of the united States.

2dly. The Laws of nations [emphasis added]

3dly. The Constitution, and Statutes of the united States—"

John Jay’s Charge to the Grand Jury, the Circuit Court for the District of Virginia, 22 May 1793

We're being scammed by the DC uniparty elite imo.

Finally, let's not allow the anti-Trump media try to fade our memories of what we witnessed on July 13.


14 posted on 08/07/2024 12:36:40 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10

Thanks for the John Jay quote and associated citation.

Here’s one of the footnotes from that text:

7. Notation in margin: “Vat. 3 B. 7. Ch.” Emer de Vattel, The law of nations; or, Principles of the law of nature: applied to the conduct and affairs of nations and sovereigns. By M. de Vattel. A work tending to display the true interest of powers. Translated from the French (London: printed for J. Newbery, J. Richardson, S. Crowder, T. Caslon, T. Longman, B. Law, J. Fuller, J. Coote, and G. Kearsly, 1759), bk. 3, chap. 7, sec. 103, p. 36. Here and below JJ paraphrases or quotes with minor changes in punctuation or capitalization from this edition, his personal copy of which is now in the Columbia University Law Library.

This seems to show that, at least as of 1793, John Jay possessed a 1759 English translation of the original French of Vattel’s Law of Nations.

BTW, Emer de Vattel is cited up and down the length of the noted paper by Jay (an intellectual giant among U.S. founding fathers).


21 posted on 08/07/2024 1:42:44 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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