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To: gnarledmaw

He should not be on the street, or in a school setting. He has a very long history of violence.... a lot of aggression over a Nintendo Switch.... he’s way too explosive he fought himself out of his own clothes ....he’s not safe around other people.

Imagine having to call in a crisis team just to remove a 1lb switch from his hands!... The “mainstreaming” of children with special needs into regular schools and classrooms just doesn’t make sense.

Further...Technology devices represent distraction ‘used by parents’ as a form of respite. This ‘results into obsession’ by the autism individual....well known in the medical community.... This morphs into various and extreme behaviors when access is denied....confiscating a restricted item in school should not result in the teacher being beat unconscious, autism or not.


131 posted on 08/07/2024 3:40:39 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: caww

You have picked up on something that makes me wonder what the whole story is.

States have different rules and of course we wouldnt need so many lawyers if they were all cut and dried at the same threshold so you have to assume that this answer is entirely nonsense because Im not there where this happened.

I do know that this story doesnt really pass muster in this state.

A person with these diagnoses at this level of aggression wouldnt be in a public school here. Many of these people Ive worked with had only had a few grades of school before they had to drop out because they were a danger to themselves or others. I have worked with people that once were like this that through years of proper support were able to attempt to go back to school but only after a long period of not having these types of behaviors and their support staff had to go with them.

Ive also never worked with a person that had these mental health diagnoses and was ruled to be competent to stand trial and those people could communicate. Ive told a number of stories around here related to something happening and the police officer being berated by the court for exactly this reason. To try and explain the reasoning behind this you would need an attorney from that state.

I dont know these parents and have no idea how things were at home for this individual. I am aware of situations where the parents had effectively built and cohabitated in a nearly stimulus free second womb with the individual needing help with bribes always being used to control behavior. Needless to say that once removed from that environment the person cant cope with it. Hell, I come from “the big city” and after moving to and living out in BFE for well over 20 years Im on the verge of behaviors myself every time I have to go interact with people in the little village out here. How is a mentally disabled individual going to process something like that? As for bribery, its a poor plan that always eventually fails. As long as someone has enough cognitive ability to recognize something has value to them, the program will devolve into attempts at extortion. “Give me my reward soda/candy/sticker/smileyface now or Im going to kick your ass and destroy the house.”

“Further....or not.” Yes, for the most part but I do want to point out that at least in this instance the way it was explained this might not be a bribe and is actually an instance of what I posted about making up program rules on the fly. Someone like this may well recognize that they have issues even if they dont understand them and want to try to control them so they can achieve some small level of independence. When these people are placed with someone like myself their home or the apartment we provide is converted depending on their individual needs to a personal asylum. Often a person like this will have a sensory stimulation room. This is a room where the person goes to practice engaging in activities that helps them refocus and control themselves without staff intervention. This room might have music, blinking lights, video games, etc that are known to be pleasant distractions for this person. If his game became his portable distraction to control himself without PRN medications or other staff intervention then it would be written into his program that he should be allowed to carry it and use it to self soothe whenever he felt emotionally challenged. If the teacher took it away and attempted to use it as a reward at the end of class instead then his understanding would be that his rights and personal property were being taken away and he would ignite like a wooden match thrown into a jet engine.


138 posted on 08/07/2024 5:52:25 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hivemind liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives select servants.)
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To: caww

I didnt effectively speak to obsession component.

With many of these things, the medical community, the support staff, even sometimes the client will understand and know something to be true.

If the guardian and/or the county case manager come up with some marvelous plan then that is often what is implemented regardless of how idiotic and harmful the idea is for the client. Ultimately, provided no human rights are blatantly violated, whoever writes the checks makes the rules. Since the money comes from the government and the guardian has some say as to which available place gets the contract they often have more say than anyone that actually understands what is going on with that person.

I could tell you stories...


139 posted on 08/07/2024 6:12:54 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hivemind liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives select servants.)
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