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To: vespa300
Perhaps it’s better to not judge evangelicals about what you think they hate. That’s dangerous and potentially sets you up to be measured by a similar ruler.

Rather than hatred, I think confusion is the norm regarding the Sabbath day. So many questions: What day is the Sabbath, what we can do, can’t do, should do and shalt not do, etc.?

And, however one answers any of these questions, and because we all have so many different answer, does it even matter? And if it does, then to what degree if we get it wrong? Major sin? Minor sin? All sin is sin? Forgiven sin?

Who knows? And if someone does know, then why should anyone listen to them, right? We all have our own truths that we believe are just as good as anyone else’s, right?

Me? I agree with the 7th Day denominations that the Sabbath day is Saturday, not Sunday.

I think the change to Sunday was mandated by law as a political solution to both ease bringing pagans into the Christian fold and to also be wholly separate from the Jews.

And I believe that Jesus essentially tore up Mosaic Law, as written by Moses, and replaced it with Himself. But, the 10 Commandments were written by God and given to Moses and through Moses to the Jews and the world, and are still in effect now and forever.

Regarding the Sabbath, beyond not working or making anyone else do work for me on the Sabbath day, I don’t have a clue what to do or what not to do compared to the other 6 days of the week.

So, if someone is of clear mind and strong faith and whole heartedly believes the Sabbath day is Sunday and acts accordingly, is Jesus cool with that or not? I don’t know. Not my call.

Again, more confusion, I suppose, but it’s not worth falsely accusing anyone of hatred or some other motive or agenda and then potentially reaping what one sows as a result.

62 posted on 08/03/2024 9:04:59 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere. Onward through the fog …)
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>>>>Perhaps it’s better to not judge evangelicals about what you think they hate. That’s dangerous and potentially sets you up to be measured by a similar ruler.>>>>

I’m not judging their salvation. I was careful not to do that. But it’s clear as day, they have contempt for the Sabbath. I mean....that’s just plain obvious. Anyone can see that.

That is why they cannot debate the issue. Ironically, the become like Democrats who resort to strong feelings and emotions instead of the plain texts in the Bible. The Sabbath is the easiest doctrine in the Bible. All a person has to be able to do is count up to 7.

And the Bible could not be more clear on when the Sabbath was “made” and for whom. At creation for man. It predates sin. It was placed in stone with murder, adultery, lying, and stealing. God didn’t do that on a whim. Those are the moral laws that guide and will be the moral laws that judge us.

I don’t keep the Sabbath perfectly. I don’t keep any of the commandments perfectly. But I don’t throw the entire law out just because of one commandment.

They aren’t kidding anyone, only themselves. They claim Adventists are under “law.” Well, next time they accuse a homosexual or abortion.......they are under law and suddenly laws are ok.

It’s a bizarre mindset. They don’t even keep Sunday anymore. Christians used to keep Sunday as a holy day. In some states, they still have blues laws...sunday laws. But the attack on the Sabbath started and now with dispensationalism, they have managed to talk themselves out of the 10 commandments just because one commandment....the Sabbath. And they know Sunday is not hinted at in the Bible. They point to a meal the disciples had on the first day. As if a Denny’s gran slam breakfast changes the law of God.

Acts 2 says they broke bread daily. So much for that argument. Then they point to Romans 14. Again, weak. Those are annual sabbaths not the sabbath in the 10 commandments. John sees the Sabbath in Revelation 1.

Ironically, by tossing out the Sabbath based on Romans 14....they toss out Sunday too. Makes no sense. It’s bizarre.

The good news is more and more people are discovering the Sabbath becaues it’s an end time issue. It’s gonna be huge. Sunday is going to be exalted more and more. The papacy will see to that. It’s her day and she’s the great counterfeit and the evangelicals are reaching out to her.

This is all prophecy. Daniel 7:25, etc. The anti Christ attempting to “change set times and law.”.....the only commandment having to do with time......in the law....is the Sabbath and the Papacy hates the Sabbath because it rebukes her authority.

The protestant reformers pretty much all knew and wrote who the great counterfeit was. And God has people in that church but as we near the end..he is calling them out........”come out of her my people lest you share in her plagues”....

The issue in Revelation is worship. Worship the beast or worship the creator. And the 7th day Sabbath was made at creation to commemorate creation.

It’s just not that hard. The whore and her daughters. thats’ the mother church and the other churches that reach out to join her on common doctrine.

She will have her way again as she did for 1260 years....her wound is healed. And we will have Sunday laws again and if you keep the Sabbath......you can neither buy nor sell and it’s a terrible time for us. the whole world joined and a decree issued to wipe out those who do not conform.

The only way to get Daniel was to find something related to “the law of his God”.....Daniel 6:5.....and Daniel is prophecy and so is Revelation and Revelation says the remnant church.....not a denomination......a people.....are those who keep the commandments of God.....and have the spirit of prophecy.

It’s not that hard.......but most will be deceived and lost.


63 posted on 08/03/2024 10:36:37 PM PDT by vespa300
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