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To: woodpusher
“Subject to the Jurisdiction of the United States”: All children born in and subject, at the time of birth, to the jurisdiction of the United States acquire U.S. citizenship at birth even if their parents were in the United States illegally at the time of birth:


Good Morning, and thanks for the supporting documents, (Extract above).

By any interpretation, Harris is a Citizen by birth only and not NBC, therefore ineligible to serve as VPOTUS or POTUS...Period.
As with obama, she is a shade of black and “deemed” qualified by Congress solely to avoid cities burning. “Deemed” does not qualify her...only our Constitution does.
To be elected to POTUS/VPOTUS requires:
1- 35 years of age
2- Lived in the US for 14 years
3- Parent(s) must be US citizen(s) at the time of birth

#3 applies...neither parent was a citizen when Heels was born in Oakland.

The dems have been playing fast and loose with the Constitution regarding eligibility so far, but that has to stop with Harris.
I don't believe she will be elected, but I didn't think biden would either...but here we are.
If they steal this election like they did in 2020, we will have crossed the Rubicon.
Enough of this charade...

177 posted on 07/23/2024 5:06:15 AM PDT by AFret. (.)
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To: AFret.
By any interpretation, Harris is a Citizen by birth only and not NBC, therefore ineligible to serve as VPOTUS or POTUS...Period.

By the interpretation of the government, the Legislative, Executive and Judicial branch, Kamala is and has been a natural born citizen since birth.

She is and has been the Vice President, a position which pursuant to Amendment 12 requires her to meet all the requirements of the President.

Amendment 14 was proposed by the Legislature and the record of the Congressional Globe leaves no doubt that the intent was to cover all persons who were born in the United States and subject to United States law, leaving out only the children of accredited diplomats or visiting dignitaries who are given immunity from our laws. And the one that really matters is the Judiciary.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark at 169 U.S. 649, 662-63 (1898)

In United States v. Rhodes (1866), Mr. Justice Swayne, sitting in the Circuit Court, said: "All persons born in the allegiance of the King are natural-born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England. . . . We find no warrant for the opinion that this great principle of the common law has ever been changed in the United States. It has always obtained here with the same vigor, and subject only to the same exceptions, since as before the Revolution."

Wong Kim Ark at 169 U.S. 658-59:

It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established. In the early case of The Charming Betsy, (1804) it appears to have been assumed by this court that all persons born in the United States were citizens of the United States, Chief Justice Marshall saying: "Whether a person born within the United States, or becoming a citizen according to the established laws of the country, can divest himself absolutely of that character otherwise than in such manner as may be prescribed by law is a question which it is not necessary at present to decide." 6 U. S. 2 Cranch 64, 6 U. S. 119.

In Inglis v. Sailors' Snug Harbor (1833), 3 Pet. 99, in which the plaintiff was born in the city of New York about the time of the Declaration of Independence, the justices of this court (while differing in opinion upon other points) all agreed that the law of England as to citizenship by birth was the law of the English Colonies in America. Mr. Justice Thompson, speaking for the majority of the court, said: "It is universally admitted, both in the English courts and in those of our own country, that all persons born within the Colonies of North America, whilst subject to the Crown of Great Britain, are natural-born British subjects."

Prior to independence, all persons born in the Colonies were natural born British subjects. After independence, children born in the States were natural born American citizens. The change from subject to citizen reflected the change of sovereignty from a king to the people.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark at 169 U.S. 649, 702 (1898)

The Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, in the declaration that

"all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside,"

contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two only: birth and naturalization. Citizenship by naturalization can only be acquired by naturalization under the authority and in the forms of law. But citizenship by birth is established by the mere fact of birth under the circumstances defined in the Constitution. Every person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, becomes at once a citizen of the United States, and needs no naturalization.

There is no third source of citizenship. There are naturalized citizens and there are natural born citizens. Natural born citizens are those who become citizens at birth.

"Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means simply subject to the laws of the United States.

The Court's interpretation is the only one that counts. You are entitled to your eccentric opinion of what the law should be, but the court is empowered to tell us all what the law actually is.

President Barack Obama, Vice President Kamala Harris, Nimrata Haley, Marco Rubio, Charles Evans Hughes, Bobby Jindal, and Vivek Ramaswamy — all natural born citizens, as was Vice-President and President Chester Arthur, born of a foreign father in 1829.

183 posted on 07/23/2024 8:05:29 AM PDT by woodpusher
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