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[Vanity] Crooks Conspiracy Theory

Posted on 07/17/2024 10:14:31 PM PDT by John Robinson

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To: Enterprise

What if the kid was never intended by those who set him up to ever be able to take a shot? That’s what I’m getting at here. That some G-man interfered with some other G-man’s play to effect a real attempt. They wouldn’t even care if it actually happens or not. (It wasn’t “mission critical”, just a “nice outcome.”)


21 posted on 07/17/2024 10:59:30 PM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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To: John Robinson

Thank you John.

Me and mine are doing well today, thank the Good Lord.

How is Jim doing?


22 posted on 07/17/2024 11:06:48 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

My opinion: the kid was put there intentionally to get his brains blown out by the sniper teams. He was sacrificed so the SS could say “we got the shooter, case closed.”


23 posted on 07/17/2024 11:23:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: jmacusa
Glad to hear. Dad is living large doing the beach vacation thing.


24 posted on 07/17/2024 11:25:14 PM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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To: John Robinson

Thank the Lord!

He’s looking good.


25 posted on 07/17/2024 11:28:14 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: John Robinson
Another good discussion with John Cullen. There are 23 total free minutes, but with maybe 10-12 minutes of decent content (lots of fluff). The rest of the interview is behind a paywall. These guys are doing a lot of self-promotion trying to make a buck off this assassination attempt rather than putting all their info out there for free.

Charles Ortel is CLOSING IN – Joe is Lost with Special Guest John Cullen

26 posted on 07/17/2024 11:29:39 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: John Robinson
said, "I just want to accept they’re wholly incompetent"

They(Cabal) rely on all factors. From Incompetence to compartmentalization. In this case a short boundary with a huge blind/dead area that had a perfect assassins position. With some kind of unknown at this time stand-down or long verification process order by the police (and likely the USSS counter snipers)
The cabal are gamers they're masters at this.


27 posted on 07/17/2024 11:31:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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Bloggers & Personal forum, on a thread titled Did Trump’s Shooter Have Help?, Vendome wrote:
There was one guy at the presser the day after they tried to kill Trump saying the perp was outside the perimeter????

Outside the perimeter? That perimeter is is anything within eyesight of The President and a bit beyond.

How in the Ho Lee Phuk is that possible?

I’ve been to Trump rallies and snipers are everywhere, including in the hills surrounding.

Security is actually visible for miles before you even get to a rally venue.

I felt safe, as well, unconcerned for The President’s safety

Moreover, there was a helicopter circling the event

The building 20 feet behind the dead dude is actually one story higher and begs the question “Why wasn’t a team on top of those buildings?” We know the answer.

Moreover, there is a 90 foot water directly to the east and overlooking all the buildings where dead was and he would have been easily seen if a team was on that water tower.

It is only 100yrds to the east. https://www.google.com/maps/place/615+Whitestown+Rd,+Meridian,+PA+16001/@40.8585856,-79.9698802,577m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x88337d9ebe29308f:0x1b4bca6251cd761e!8m2!3d40.8585186!4d-79.9699773!16s%2Fg%2F11ckqj_ky9?entry=ttu

No one on building to secure it.

No one overlooking to secure it.

So… a guy just decides to show up at a rally and take a potshot at PDJT… and he looks around for a spot that wasn’t covered by USSS and… well whadaya know! He’s in luck. A handy barn roof with no-one on it. And his rifle happens to be sighted in for the distance to the stage.

Now, let’s just see if he can get up there with a rifle without being spotted. Well whaddaya know! Another lucky break! Wait… he was spotted and pointed out to security, Well whaddaya know! Three times lucky! Security blew it off.

Oops. His luck ran out. He was shot deader’n a doornail. Tsk, tsk. Too bad. Can’t question him now.

Gonna be lots of stuff out there

Fact is “it should have never happened “

That it did is inexplicable and no answer will be acceptable

Snipers have an Area of Operation

In that AO are Squares that they are responsible for scanning hostiles and intelligence

Each Square also has math notes for distance, elevation, declination, etc

This was not a slipup

Why is no one talking about the water tower?


28 posted on 07/17/2024 11:31:48 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: John Robinson
This woman has lots of good links to follow. Her "writing" style is ultra-annoying, cryptic, and hard to understand, though. But her links are solid.

Social Engineering the Public's Perception - a Poem and a video link
Two perps, but only one gets to be the poor loner high school student . . . who went bad and is registered Republican - who are the ones who are so violent ....

By JENNIFER DEPEW, R.D.

29 posted on 07/17/2024 11:32:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: John Robinson

That is nice. We miss him around here.


30 posted on 07/17/2024 11:34:47 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Vendome
said, "Why is no one talking about the water tower?"

Because no one was at the water tower. The bleachers was in the way. Other then that one of the USSS counter sniper teams SHOULD'VE been on the water tower.
31 posted on 07/17/2024 11:39:14 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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It’s more plausible they’ve been leaving gaps in his security perimeter for a long time hoping someone would take advantage of it. Trump needs his own security consultant to check every venue and its security going forward...and hire a dozen or so bodyguards...I also expect every MAGA supporter to be on full alert at any event going forward.


32 posted on 07/17/2024 11:47:38 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: John Robinson; All

The only thing I know for sure is that we will never know for sure:

Because no matter what we learn, and no matter what we can assume from logic and analysis, those who made it happen or merely allowed it to happen will never admit it.

On Sunday, I was pretty certain that there was at least one more shooter, but with things I learned on Monday, I could see it being just whoever it was on the roof, although I still believe that he couldn’t have done it without inside intel, and maybe logistical help from several law enforcement officials.

But a lot of people who were there, on the ground and close to the action are still convinced there were multiple shooters. Whether any of them have the knowledge and / or experience to actually understand what they saw and heard, I couldn’t say. Such events can be very confusing even to people who are combat veterans.


33 posted on 07/17/2024 11:53:36 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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When the individual went from suspicious to a threat you find out who in the detail ok’d letting Trump go on stage, that would be your guy to question if this kid had help.

You never let your guy go on stage under an active threat. If this was gross incompetence, well, the odds of that many blunders seem slim to impossible in my eyes.


34 posted on 07/17/2024 11:54:17 PM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: DHerion

Yeah, that would have to be the case for this kid to not have been “delivered” to this exact event. The one problem with your theory is that Butler seemed to be an exception by many accounts. But maybe that’s just people’s reaction given that something happened here, that’s plausible, too. Maybe all along these events have just been inadequately secured.

We should be looking back at past rallies. Were they secured properly? Would be a good question to answer.


35 posted on 07/18/2024 12:03:07 AM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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I suppose clues can be gleaned from knowing more about kid’s training to operate weapon used. Where, how long, who paid?

I don’t recall reading anything yet about family background of dead shooter.

Wasn’t the El Paso Walmart killer a very similar sort of person?


36 posted on 07/18/2024 12:06:21 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (A conspiracy theory is usually a fact that a leftist cannot endorse)
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To: Enterprise

“...12 million shares of DJT stock were shorted...”

I love a good conspiracy theory, but I wonder how that compares with other days over the last few months/years.


37 posted on 07/18/2024 12:11:43 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: LegendHasIt

There were about three interviews I saw claiming there was a shooter in the water tower, for example. But given the way the mind works, they could have easily heard the shots, turned to see a water tower, and made the assumed connection that must have been from where they came. The mind could go as far as fabricating that evidence in mind’s eye with certainty if it was the belief of the person. Which is why witness testimony is often unreliable.

The incontrovertible fact is that MUST SECURE areas were never secured.


38 posted on 07/18/2024 12:11:55 AM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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To: 21twelve

Great question. https://fintel.io/sosh/us/djt


39 posted on 07/18/2024 12:16:13 AM PDT by John Robinson (🍺)
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To: John Robinson

Why would the Democrats be any different than the Mafia? I think the Demos are capable of doing anything the Mafia might do.


40 posted on 07/18/2024 12:19:31 AM PDT by The Duke (Not without incident)
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