If Ukraine is HOSED by our failure to support, we will probably end up with the same results as happened in 1941. Lots of America Firsters who favored no war support to England which had already been fighting for 2 year were horribly surpired by Pearl Harbor. So, if we fail to support Ukraine and Putin expands further into europe, will we wait until China attacks Pearl Harbor or other US Pacific strong point or ally?
A lot of those America Firsterss were also strong German supporters, taking part in German sponsored Bund activites, which had a strong anti Jewish emphasis.
Don’t know any America-Firsters on FR, but regarding China, they’ll do whatever they want, whenever they’re ready. If the US had taken China SERIOUSLY, we would have spent the past 30 years PREPARING for for China instead of ‘celebrating’ “The End of History” and trashing our military. We didn’t do jack for those 30 years, too much money to be made being ‘friends’ with China (I still remember our claims that China would become a free country, once they were wealthy...still waiting!), and needless to say, getting Russia on our side would have been CRITICAL, but since Russia is against Globohomo and Climate Change, that would OUT OF THE QUESTION, and instead the Neocons started a war that even Obama said that we would NEVER win - and HE WAS RIGHT.
Now it’s too late, either we choose the date that China takes over as top dog, or China chooses that date - there is no other outcome - the decisions from 30 years ago and carried forward for decades SEALED OUR FATE.