Posted on 07/12/2024 9:53:21 PM PDT by Morgana
This is all being argued as though this platform committee has ever influenced national policy. Are pro-life state legislatures suddenly going to become pro-choice as a result of this?
It is as though they believe this document has the force of law and is sovereign over culture - well if it did, then why hasn’t the country been staunchly pro-life all of these decades?
And they act like all of the numerous pro-life policies and laws never got enacted under Republicans being elected - look at the comments.
“ The Biden administration has transformed “every agency into Planned Parenthood,” she said, adding that a second Trump administration could reverse President Joe Biden’s radically pro-abortion agency guidelines, she said.”
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President Trump has to get elected first.
I wonder, how many of these Pro-Life leaders come to Pro-Life President Trump’s defense when the deep state is attacking him?
Anybody recall any of them defending the defender of life? Any of them show any gratitude?
Openly advocating for the murder of innocent children to "save money" ... real nice.
A lot of pro choice people want Trump and not the religious zealots of the right wing GOP. He is doing his best to get fiscal conservatives, and American nationalists in his camp who can be pro choice. There is a good chunk of society who love this country and don’t want open borders but don’t care about the moral issues of the far right. Those being gays, abortion, and marijuana.
Trump is a winner he knows how to win get out of his way and let the man win.
“18 years of WIC,SNAP,TANF and section 8’
Mothers’ Helpers Nursing Home
You will:
1. work 4 days a week taking care of the elderly,
2. work 1 day a week taking care of the children,
3. get an 10x10 room with private bath and kitchen,
4. get paid the state minimum wage.
Perhaps we ought to stop beating a dead 2 political party system instead.
That’s your belief, not everyone believes in fully sustainable life at conception. You are entitled to your religious beliefs. After viability is different and should be treated differently is how a lot of people believe and then you have some who just don’t care. What you call murder others see as a clump of cells even at 12
weeks at the tadpoles size stage both are valid as that are opinions. Legally is way is being debated and is a State issue now.
“she knows you can’t turn off funding for a child even if she refuses to work in most states”
Social Security Administration
Dear Mom:
A welfare recollection lien was placed on your account...
Americans are too far gone to even think about an abortion ban. Might as well try and ban contraception and divorce.
Ok so how will you get the majority of people to vote in those mandatory work rules on a single mother who regardless of work status her child is legally required to be supported by the state. She could just give up the child to CPS and the result is the same the child is payed for under the tax payers. Involuntary forced work is against the 13th amendment and the optics are really bad when it’s a person of color being forced to work for minimum wage in a 10x10 holding cell. Remember the kid since birth is entitled to funding until their 18th birthday regardless of parentage. Get real no one is passing laws like that. So forcing a baby into a single mother ends up one of two ways the kid goes into the system without parents or the single mom gets paid to raise that child from the state they might chose to work but that’s 100% on them that kid is paid for regardless.
The two party system is designed to keep those the people from ever having a viable people’s candidate let alone party. Trump is what broke the two party system he is .not in their club and they hate him for it. Imagine if America has a parliamentary system where we could take vote of no confidence and not have to wait 4 years to her rid of a terrible PM where forming a mandate takes more than just two narrow minded parties and their fringe rabid bases.
“I don’t know why people get so worked up over largely lower class women of color having abortions it saves billions per year from welfare payouts....I am all for hoodrat babymomma not having a litter of kids on the welfare.”
Probably a majority of the Supreme Court felt the same way in 1973.
At the age of 65, I don’t get worked up about anything much anymore.
sperm + egg -> growing embryo -> little Lisa, petite Paul
At some point the growing embryo is undeniably a human being.
“10x10 holding cell”
It’s a private room.
“...Involuntary forced work is against the 13th amendment...”
It’s a choice to get a CNA and a job.
In Florida, quite a few males (and some females) sleep outdoors. I once heard a homeless guy tell a story about meeting up with a Florida panther. My neighbor Connie has a story about the rattlesnakes escaping from the lot where her uncle’s grocery store was built.
I am proposing alternatives.
Our welfare system was set up about 100 years ago.
Job splitting is far more feasible in the 2021 economy.
“At some point the growing embryo is undeniably a human being.”
That much is certain and most people even pro choice people accept that it’s somewhere from single cell to can survive if mom dies this second that states have to define it’s no where in federal law or powers. States already decide their own homicide laws so the precedence is there. I think most people would say only before viability at the latest that’s a winning position. The single cell be it IVF embryos looking at you Alabama or first day of ovulation fringe group is not a winnable fight in modern America. 12-15 weeks is penalty of time to figure out ok it’s not a chemical pregnancy and what does the social situation of the person look like then make a choice with them and their physician. As was pointed out equal protection under the 14th would apply once that setting point is legislated for homicide or accidental deaths too.
It’s not my “belief” of what you said - it is what you said. There for all to see. Saying you don’t believe that is a stage of life does not make it so. Science contradicts you...you didn’t get here without being in that stage of life. You are by definition a hypocrite by saying such things when your yourself were born.
Civilization destabilizes and collapses without the family, without respect for life, and without people of sound mind. You support murdering children, eliminating the family, and having people be burned out and brain dead on drugs.
I get that, and if it was up to me the little buggers wouldn’t get a dime of tax payer money charity only or momma can work and get charity child care. Sadly the system is set up to not be that way. With modem DNA testing and the codis database the state could test each child and find the daddy via ancestry or codis DNA then just garnish wages , tax returns , bank garnishments the reach of digital big brother is deep. Changing the system is needed as CPS is a nightmare in itself. Some kids are better off not born and that’s just how it is in the lower classes do we need more kids coming out of the state care system into lives of crime to put in the penal system.
My parents wanted me and could afford me they chose to have me in fact they worked for ten years to have me. I’m fully aware of the biological process of reproduction.It’s not some magical moment when sperm meets egg. Most of the time even when that happens the woman’s body sheds it during her normal cycle and she never knew a sperm met up with an egg. Only significantly after implantation does the hormone levels charge enough to even be detectable let alone felt by the person. Look you are a religious type that’s fine others of us are not at all and don’t care about your beliefs in the least. This is a legal debate in the field of state level politics now that the highest court in the land firmly said it’s unconstitutional for the federal government to be involved in the legality of the matter. So being a legal debate it’s now up to the voters to decide which representatives are going to write the laws of the state or in states with referendum the voters will decide for themselves that is how the will of the people works.
“her child is legally required to be supported by the state.”
one ringie dingie, two ringie dingie...
Mothers’ Helper Nursing Home, how may I help you?
Child Support Services, do you have space in your nursery?
I’m a life long prolifer as were my parents. We worked to return the issue back to States. Reversing RvW, returned the issue back to the States. Pro Life orgs still pump out the same stale msgs from the 70s n 80s. Why? I’m confident it’s because of the 6 figure executive salaries.
Pro Life starts in the home tho controlled by the State. Those of you who push for a fed NO abortion bill will cause this to backfire. The pro aborts stair stepped abortion at will, we need to regulate PP at the State level not Fed
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