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To: tired&retired
. I accept the Bible as the truth, but

resort to elaborate demonic contrivances in seeking to deny what it plainly states when contradicting you.

Most agree that Paul did not write the book of Hebrews.

I never said or inferred that he did, which is not relevant to the inspiration of it.

since the third century this has been questioned, and the consensus among most modern scholars is that the author is unknown.

Which is part of your unattributed pasting from Wikipedia.

Hebrews 2:3 3How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; , the author states that this “great salvation” was “declared at first by the Lord, and it was attested to us by those who heard”. This is usually taken to indicate the author was a second-generation Christian.

As in the apostles teaching men such as Apollos, a instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord (Acts 18:25) who is a possible author. But also not relevant to the inspiration of it.

You will note that the scripture you cite, Hebrews 9:27 was added at a later date.

You will note that you can only wish that this is what evidence and your source itself testifies - a 2nd or 3rd century manuscript - to:

31–39 Heb 9:26–1 Corinthians 2:3

Consistent with your reasoning, since - besides other examples - Hebrews 8:8 is also found in a different folio than Hebrews 8:9, and 1 Cor 2:3–3:5 is also found in a different folio than 1 Cor 3:6, than all such must be later additions.

Which is also irrelevant to the issue, since Papyrus 46 (P. Chester Beatty II) is simply a copy of a previous manuscript , not the original mss.

Thus your contrived recourse is exposed as sophistry.

Apothnesko, the word used in Hebrews 9:27, is also the verb the apostle Paul uses six times in his discussion of baptism in Romans 6:1-11. To understand the implications of Hebrews 9:27, we need to consider this passage....signaling that he understands that, by using the verb apothnesko, he is not referring to biological death. He is referring to another species of death, one related to our separation from sin, not life. We could say he is delineating his use of apothnesko to refer to the specific sort of death he is discussing in the passage.

Apothnesko, the word used in Hebrews 9:27, is the verb used 111 times, and only a very few times is it used to describe anything other than biological death, evident by its context, and which is not the case at all in Hebrews 9:27, as instead it is only consistent with the literal death of the Lord Jesus in providing forgiveness and regeneration, which thus means that believers look to His second coming and the realization of full salvation, which a consistent them in Hebrews, etc.

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. (Heb 9:27-28)
Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward. For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. (Heb 10:35-37)
Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul. (Heb 10:38-39)

And "appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" also flows from the previous statement as to what is to be dealt with:

Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
(Heb 6:2) Romans 6:7, often mishandled by translators, nails down the understanding that Paul uses apothnesko metaphorically...Thus “dying daily” is metaphoric, and not a physical death.:

Which is simply a desperate attempt to force a different sense into a literal one, all in order to support reincarnation and a false gospel of a "recycling level for souls that are growing but have not grown to transcend self or the physical body" to when "our soul actually expands to where the entire earth exists within you" with the “lifted or raised up” Jesus spoke of being raising your brain wave frequency above 40 Hz, with a purifying fire of esoterical Higher Consciousness, which deception is nothing new, as men such as Swedenborg, Roy Masters, etc. example.

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. (2 Corinthians 11:13-14)

And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (Revelation 20:10)

40 posted on 07/06/2024 8:07:29 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: daniel1212

Like the Jews, especially the Pharisees, you are blind to the teachings of Jesus.

You know them intellectually, but do not experience them. You are so set on being correct, that you miss the forest for the trees.

You are so caught up in being right, and judging others as wrong that you have lost the Love in your heart. Without that Love, you will never experience Jesus being in you.

Just as Jesus stated, “My Father and I are One”, and in John 14, “My Father is in Me and I in My Father”, you will say “I am One with Jesus” and “Jesus is in me and I in Jesus.” It is an experience beyond words of description.

Without that Love, you will be unable to see and experience Jesus. He is already here. Just out of perception for those who have not awakened.

Like the servants in Matthew 13 who were asleep when satin planted the weeds, you too are asleep.

Stay with studying the Bible, but invite the Helper Spirit into you to guide you, rather than inflating your ego with the possession of your knowledge. As long as you are full of yourself, you leave no room for the Holy Spirit to enter and guide you.

I say these words with the Love that you too can experience that which you seek.

🙏


44 posted on 07/07/2024 7:27:23 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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