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This is shameful (IF TRUE). Freepers may analyse the video.
1 posted on 06/23/2024 2:56:30 AM PDT by RandFan
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Just how does that work out? That large a group — sort of like arming convicts and expecting them to compliantly remain in the prison yard and follow orders.


2 posted on 06/23/2024 3:45:10 AM PDT by odawg
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Douglas A Macgregor needs to take his meds.


4 posted on 06/23/2024 4:26:49 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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This is shameful (IF TRUE)

LOL, when was Douglas Macgregor correct in the past?

Colonel Douglas MacGregor has made the following predictions:

On 27th Feb 2022, he stated: “The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over". It is still going.

In March 2022, he stated: “I would say another 10 days this should be completely over”.

In March 2022, he stated that: “[Ukranian forces have been] grounded to bits. There's no question about that despite what we report on our mainstream media". And yet, fighting continues.

In July 2022, he stated that: “The war, with the exception of Kharkiv and Odesa, as far as the Russians are concerned is largely over”.

In September 2022, he stated that: “this war may be over soon”.

Why are you still taking him seriously?

7 posted on 06/23/2024 4:51:25 AM PDT by tlozo ( Trump: "As everyone agrees, Ukraine Survival and Strength...is also important to us!" )
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Macgregor’s deliberate use of the archaic “con-scribed” (with a completely unnecessary hyphen) instead of the familiar “conscripted” tells you all you need to know about that pedantic, arrogant, and ridiculously wrongheaded blowhard.

We all know MacGregor is a tool.

But whose?


8 posted on 06/23/2024 5:08:55 AM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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St Zelensky is pure evil. When the people realize how they were tricked by Z, and the West, the backlash will be historic….think Mussolini.


12 posted on 06/23/2024 5:47:10 AM PDT by delta7
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Let me play the devil's advocate for a moment. I assume the video is real. What is shameful about it?

Nations feel they have a right to draft men for their wars. That includes the USA. Is that shameful? (I know that many Libertarians feel it is. I respect that as a philosophical position, but it's out of step with what most nations do. Libertarians tend to be very idealist (again, a good thing).

So, please stipulate for the sake of discussion that the Ukraine has a right to conscript it's male citizens. Many of them don't want to go. That's very understandable, but it's still against the law.

Ukraine has run a "sting" operation to find these draft dodgers. Is that shameful? Any worse than border guards arresting them one at a time?

I just found your description of this event interesting.

I don't think too many people (except the far left) found America arresting and prosecuting people for draft-evasion "shameful" in the Vietnam era. Most of the "shame" was poured out on the draft-dodgers, not the people enforcing the law.

Here's an article from RT that includes some quotes from Ukrainian officials on the scope of the draft-dodging going on in Ukraine at this point.

Over 100 draft dodgers try to flee Ukraine daily – official

Most of the fugitives are caught by on-duty officers, the head of a Border Service department has said

Over 100 Ukrainians attempt to flee the country every day by various routes in an effort to escape mobilization, a senior Border Service official has said, admitting that the real number could be even higher.

In an interview with the news agency Unian on Saturday, Igor Matviychuk, who heads the Border Service’s Control Department, said that this figure includes both those who try to leave Ukraine by illegally making their way through checkpoints and those who seek to cross through poorly guarded terrain in the wilderness.

Matviychuk also noted that the statistics include either those detained by Ukrainian patrols and officials, or those reported by foreign authorities. He stated that most draft dodgers are being caught, but that this offense is punishable only by a fine. However, Matviychuk added that those who mastermind schemes to help Ukrainian men illegally leave the country could face criminal charges.

The official’s comments come as Ukrainian journalist Vitaly Glagola reported that the Ukrainian authorities on Friday detained an organized group of as many as 47 men attempting to flee the country for Moldova in Odessa Region in what appears to be the largest single arrest of draft evaders since the start of the conflict.

Ukraine announced a general mobilization shortly after the hostilities with Russia began, barring most categories of men between the ages of 18 and 60 from leaving the country. However, this effort has been marred by widespread graft and draft-dodging. More recently, faced with mounting battlefield losses, Kiev passed a law that lowered the draft age from 27 to 25 and another that significantly tightened mobilization rules.

At the same time, attempts to escape mobilization have proven fatal in some cases. Ukraine’s Border Service said earlier this month that more than 45 Ukrainian men had died in rough terrain while fleeing the country, adding that a significant portion of them drowned in the Tisza River, which flows through southwestern Ukraine, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, and Serbia.

The agency also admitted last week that its operatives had resorted to firing shots to stop draft dodgers from fleeing the country.


21 posted on 06/23/2024 3:34:47 PM PDT by Vlad0
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