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The Carolina Panthers are hurtling towards threats of relocation
SB Nation ^ | Jun 17, 2024 | James Dator

Posted on 06/17/2024 1:07:17 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

All is not well with the Carolina Panthers, and it has nothing to do with recent years of putrid performance. Charlotte City Council will hear statements from the public on Monday about whether or not taxpayers believe $650M in revenue should be given to Tepper Sport Entertainment (TSE) to renovate Bank of America Stadium as part of a $1.3B proposal to upgrade the home of the Panthers.

Over 60 percent of residents polled disagree with the proposal, which would exchange the $650M for a 20-year guarantee that the team would not relocate from Charlotte. This “guarantee” gives TSE a 15-year out to leave in 2039 and pay “any outstanding debt” in exchange for the move. It’s the latest in a back-and-forth between North Carolina residents and David Tepper, who has seemingly done everything in his power to become the most-disliked man in professional sports since purchasing the Panthers in 2018. While there’s little doubt some good has come from Tepper’s time, like the establishment of Charlotte FC in MLS and turning the stadium into a large-scale concert venue, he’s also alienated the public time and time again by making seemingly unnecessary changes that forsake tradition in name of the bottom line.

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To: dfwgator
Tell the Panthers to come to Michigan.

Hell, they and the Lions have got the same (color) uniforms now.

...oh, and Michigan Panthers have won the only championship since I was born.

...and that's a loooooooong time ago.

21 posted on 06/17/2024 2:24:02 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

I love it.


22 posted on 06/17/2024 2:27:58 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: MinorityRepublican
Every stadium (all sports) these days has to be a shrine to the extravagant conspicuous spending consumers and more so than the last one that was built.

Keep it simple. Good field. Good sight lines. Roof if you need it.

23 posted on 06/17/2024 3:27:20 PM PDT by llevrok (“In a time of deceit telling, the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell)
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To: llevrok
Keep it simple. Good field. Good sight lines. Roof if you need it.

It used to be $200 million (in 2024 dollars) to build a stadium. Now it's $2 billion.

24 posted on 06/17/2024 3:28:19 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: llevrok

Kind of reminds me of the Coliseum in Rome. A beautiful tribute to those inside for the games…then the government collapsed.


25 posted on 06/17/2024 3:36:58 PM PDT by USAF1985 (Joe McCarthy is a hero...he was absolutely, 100% correct! (Let’s go Brandon!))
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To: dfwgator

I was NOT impressed by the lack of showing in St Louis when I went to see them play the evil Cowboys from the nosebleed seats (Row VV, in the corner).

At the time they were the reigning Super Bowl champions (2002), and the carpetbagging Cowboys made as much noise as the local Rams fans. We had Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, Tory Holt, Isaac Bruce, Aeneas Williams, Orlando Pace.

I admit, the LA fans aren’t any better.

Still, when I was looking for the Jones dome, a local directed me to nearby Busch Stadium. St. Louis is a baseball town, and always will be.


26 posted on 06/17/2024 3:37:45 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Stormy Daniels is a McGuffin)
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To: twister881

Legalized extortion.


27 posted on 06/17/2024 3:38:16 PM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: dfwgator
The problem with Southern teams, is that there are a lot of transplants there who still root for their old teams, and don’t get behind the local teams.

That goes triple for Phoenix. The Cardinals are technically the oldest NFL team, but judging from bumper stickers, shirts and talking to coworkers and folks at church, the allegiances stay with the old team. That is partly because the NFL encouraged teams to have a national following. My classmates in the '70s who lived in CT rarely supported the loser Giants. Our dads did. We rooted for the Steelers, Dolphins, Vikings, Cowboys, etc. I rooted for the Rams, because Reagan was from California, I liked the horns and blue/gold, and DESPISED the Cowboys, so I betray no locality when I never had a local allegiance to begin with.

Here in Phoenix there are Packer bars, Steeler bars, Browns bars. Pretty much everybody except Tampa Bay (they probably do not move to Phoenix). I have a Rams barber. He is not a transplant, but he is old enough that he was a Rams fan before the Cards moved. Some Cowboys and Raider fans are similar.

To grow a fan base, you need to get a Tom Brady, win for an extended period, and build a national fan base. The locals get thrown in as a bonus.
28 posted on 06/17/2024 3:45:00 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Stormy Daniels is a McGuffin)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Even here in Dallas, if the Browns or Steelers come here, it’s pretty much 50-50 at AT&T.


29 posted on 06/17/2024 3:46:58 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

At the time they were the reigning Super Bowl champions (2002)
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The Patriots were the reigning Super Bowl champions.


30 posted on 06/17/2024 4:31:09 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon
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To: HenpeckedCon

My apologies. Anyway, NFC champ and two years off a Championship is not nothing. More than the ST. Louis Cardinals ever did.


31 posted on 06/17/2024 5:19:02 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Stormy Daniels is a McGuffin)
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To: BrexitBen

Those things happen in places like Nashville when liberals invade southern cities and towns.

They come here because they’re fleeing sh*tholes they created.

Saddest part is the corrupt and greedy politicians let people poke their liberal noses under the tent and before you know it, liberals take over city councils, county commissions, school boards.

Of all the destructive forces in this country, the three worst are: Wall St, liberals and corrupt politicians


32 posted on 06/17/2024 6:05:38 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: USAF1985

“ Kind of reminds me of the Coliseum in Rome. A beautiful tribute to those inside for the games…then the government collapsed.”

Bread and circuses to entertain the masses.


33 posted on 06/17/2024 6:10:05 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I live in NC. I say send them packing. Don’t let the screen door hit you on the way out.


34 posted on 06/17/2024 6:19:46 PM PDT by Thomas Jerome
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To: Thomas Jerome
I live in NC. I say send them packing. Don’t let the screen door hit you on the way out.

Same here. But I'm a transplant. So maybe I'm the wrong person to ask. But **** them!

35 posted on 06/17/2024 6:33:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: qaz123

” When we are stacked upon one another in cities, as in Europe, we shall be as corrupt as Europe “.

——Thomas Jefferson, over 200 years ago


36 posted on 06/17/2024 6:57:42 PM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: MinorityRepublican

These kinds of issues could be avoided or at least minimized if the major professional sports leagues dedicated a slice of their immense revenue to designing and financing league stadiums. The benefit to the leagues would be more orderly and less contentious development and maintenance of the stadiums that are required for them and their teams to prosper. The net effect would be to shift much of the stadium cost from local and state taxpayers.


37 posted on 06/17/2024 7:04:13 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: BrexitBen

WOW!!!


38 posted on 06/17/2024 7:16:56 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Rockingham

The NFL is best at that, they share revenue from their TV deal with all the networks. If they save 10% of that, each team will be able to renovate their stadium every 20 years.


39 posted on 06/17/2024 7:33:50 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: dfwgator

Tepper is also a bad owner. There’s a pattern with these guys. Put a losing and pathetic team on the field for several years, ask for an exorbitant amount of tax money, and relocate if it doesn’t pass. Stan Kroenke, Art Modell, Al Davis, Bill Bidwell. The NFL seems to attract these grifters.


40 posted on 06/17/2024 7:50:56 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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