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To: newmomster
If women let men shoot their sperm all over their landscape, the choice to murder their baby is all on them.

Wrong. The man can choose not to shoot his sperm all over the place, so the responsibility for that is on him.

In decades past, women HAD to take responsibility for their bodies.

Does that include trafficked women?

How a man feels after a child is conceived is not the problem.

That's right. If he fathers a child, then he has to support the child. If he didn't want to be a father, then he should have been careful about who he stuck it into.

It’s the pregnancy that results from consensual sex between a man who has no obligation to the plaything and the woman who allowed herself to be treated as such.

Bull! A man has every responsibility to support the children he fathers. Whether he has any obligation to the woman is another debate that we might actually agree on, but he is responsible for the children he fathers.

31 posted on 06/16/2024 11:46:06 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Discussion does not entail rape/incest, as I stated in the beginning.

Bringing in trafficked women: thats rape.

Yes, a man has to support the child, never said he didnt. But he does not owe anything to the woman who had consensual sex and KNEW SHE would bear more of the consequences of her actions. Makes HER the biggest loser....she will make less money and possibly her child will be raised in poverty; it will be difficult for HER to find a marriage partner in the future. She will typically have less of a support system than a wife with husbands family to lean on.

There’s no way a man is going to suffer the same consequences as the woman. It’s a fact that does not change under ‘free sex’ circumstances. And the only people who can change that are WOMEN individually and as a group.

Women have always been the arbiters of what is correct in society...and when they decide to play in the dirt, all of society - particularly the children - suffer.

Women still are the losers.


33 posted on 06/16/2024 12:30:39 PM PDT by newmomster
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