Posted on 06/16/2024 3:45:08 AM PDT by Morgana
Women have no agency; it’s all men’s fault./S
“I know that in *Christian* colleges, used to be that if a girl got pregnant out of wedlock, she had to quit college and was sent home in shame.
What happened to the guy?
Usually nothing.
He was allowed to finish his degree and graduate and go into missions or the ministry, or something.
Mind you, I’m a Christian, but this policy absolutely ROTTED. Talk a bout a two tiered *justice* system.
That girl did NOT get pregnant in a vacuum, and yet she was always the one who bore the blame and was shamed over it.
The double standard men manage to rationalize in their minds is disgusting and hypocritical.”
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Back in the 1980’s my stepmom would listen to “Focus on the family” on the radio.
I remember one day they were talking about this very situation.
One Christian college had to stop this because they found out the women were just getting abortions.
Of course they were! Christian colleges are private and that is a lot of money and they were going going to be hauled off the the Dean’s office, lose that tuition and all those credits over a pregnancy, when in fact the boy did not get kicked out.
Why did it take abortion for them to realize their mistake?
Problem is it only helped the pro aborts sell more abortions. They might as well had a shuttle bus to that school to the abortion mill.
At the time I was pro-choice as were a lot of girls in high school. That only made me more pro-choice because I saw in that story abortion giving those girls “rights” or “power over” those oppressive males and rules of that school.
At the end of my HS year I was asked by an older woman if I’d ever attend a Christian college and I was like “are you freaking kidding me lady?” She was shocked she did not understand why I answered her like I was insulted she would even ask why I would want to attend one.
It’s only because of the Catholic Church and the Blessed Virgin Mary that I’m pro-life now. Most Protestants are shocked when I say the Virgin Mary and not Jesus. In my church we have all kinds of images of the Virgin Mary holding Baby Jesus and one day while starring at one I thought to myself “if she had had an abortion we would have all been screwed”. Be so thankful the Virgin Mary chose life.
That's what they did with LBJ's Great Society Programs so 90% of the Blacks are voting for the Democrats.
I’m prolife because murder is wrong.
It has nothing to do with Catholicism.
Most Christians I’ve ever attended church with also feel the same way and for them the stand of Catholicism has nothing to do with it either.
Not all of us by a long shot. I know lots of women who are pro-life.
And there are plenty of men who are pro-abortion. There are way too many accounts I have read of women being pushed into abortions by the husband or boyfriend who don't want to deal with child support for the child they fathered.
This blaming all women for problems that men also have a hand in is disingenuous. Men need to own up to their share of the responsibility in the matter and quit the blanket blame shifting.
It was also sometimes the other way around. I witnessed a conversion of the woman’s point of view from pro-abort to anti-abort while people were demonstrating outside an abortion mill. Someone heard them speaking Spanish as the woman left to go inside the mill and gathered that the man was against this. She had a rosary with her, even though she was not Catholic. She went up to the car and asked the man if they could say the rosary together.
After the first few prayers, the woman came out again. She had changed her mind.
Even to call the employees “health workers” . . .
In our area, the Catholics aren’t involved in any pro-life events or organizations. It’s the Presbyterians and Baptists who organize the March For Life every year, fund and support the pro-life resource centers as budget line items, and help pregnant mothers in other ways. Nary one Catholic to be seen.
I know it works both ways, in all cases.
However, some here on FR seem to be oblivious to that fact and blame every wrong on the planet on women as a group.
That's anecdotal.
The referendums in Kansas and Ohio passed in favor of legalizing abortion.
I'm just dealing with political reality.
Even Donald Trump said that it's up to each state to do their own thing on abortion.
It seems to depend on how strong a person’s faith is...
I was involved with both Catholic and Protestant churches for many years. The devout Catholics and Evangelical Christians were pro-life, whereas the mainstream Protestants and so-called “cafeteria Catholics” were a mixed bag.
Around here, the Catholic churches have always been more actively involved in pro-life issues, from protesting abortion clinics to counseling pregnant women. Every Catholic church where I went had a pro-life group.
Overall, the Evangelical Christians were not as focused on the issue. Their churches focused more on other issues.
Some atheists are pro-life. I remember a few on this forum in the early days, especially one who posted about it all the time. If you strongly believe there is no afterlife, well...
You seem to be confusing two different issues. Plenty of young, single women who sleep around become mothers long before 40.
The women who remain virgins while waiting for marriage sometimes "hit their forties with no prospects" because too many men expect a test drive before the wedding night.
Despicable. As is “Women’s health care”. What is “healthy” in death?
That's the other debate that I said you and I would probably agree on, which we do.
Bringing in trafficked women: thats rape.
It's also a billion dollar industry that caters mostly to you know who.
Women still are the losers.
You seem to be changing your point from "It is all on women" to "women are the losers".
That's not always true either. A woman can get pregnant without the man's verbal consent, although I would say he consented by ramming it into her, then the male judge falls all over himself awarding the woman as much he can in order to score point with whomever he wants to ram it into. I've seen this happen for decades, and men refuse to learn from it. That's why I have so little sympathy for men.
But getting back to the issue at hand, there is a famous actress/comedienne who admits to having had four abortions. If a man screws her knowing that she'll abort any baby that is conceived, then he is at least at fault for contributing to that situation.
Yep, whatever....continue the trend.
Have a good day.
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