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To: woodpusher
What "selective editing"?

I posted the titles and links to articles by The Telegraph and Independent about Russians surrendering in Vovochansk, and that other news services were reporting the same. That is not editing.

Then I pointed out people were acting like Russia's advance toward Kharhiv a few weeks ago would end the war, which it didn't.

120 posted on 06/16/2024 9:33:09 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 🛇 CCCP 2.0 🛇)
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To: Widget Jr

ARTICLE

Trying And Failing To Cross A River In Vovchansk, 400 Russian Troops Got Cut Off. Now They’re Surrendering:
Russia’s northern offensive isn’t going well.
David Axe
Forbes Staff
Updated Jun 16, 2024, 06:49pm EDT
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/06/16/trying-and-failing-to-cross-a-river-in-vovchansk-400-russian-troops-got-cut-off-now-theyre-surrendering/

“Ukrainian forces have captured scores of Russian troops in the embattled town of Vovchansk, just south of the Russia-Ukraine border, dealing a major setback to Russia’s faltering northern offensive.

In heavy fighting over the weekend, Ukrainian troops surrounded as many as 400 Russians in and around a chemical plant in central Vovchansk. Thirty Russians surrendered after repeated attempts to rescue them failed, the Ukrainian Center for Defense Strategies reported.

On May 10, a force of tens of thousands of Russian troops opened a new front in Russia’s 28-month wider war on Ukraine. Attacking south across the Russia-Ukraine border, Russian battalions quickly captured a chain of lightly defended border villages—and then advanced on Vovchansk, the first big town between the border and the city of Kharkiv, 25 miles to the south.

It was there in Vovchansk that the Ukrainians chose to stand fight. Elements of several Ukrainian brigades—including the elite 82nd Air Assault Brigade—rushed north and, in several weeks of hard fighting, blocked the Russian advance just north of the Vovcha River, which threads from east to west through central Vovchansk.

The Russians rallied. The equivalent of at least two battalions with hundreds of infantry stormed the PJSC Volchansky chemical plant, on the Vovcha River’s right bank. Factories and other industrial facilities are often the locus of the fighting in Ukraine, as their big sturdy buildings can shelter troops and protect them from artillery and drones.

The Russians’ plan was apparently to capture the chemical plant and then, from there, launch a river-crossing operation in order to force their way into southern Vovchansk.

The plan failed when Ukrainian troops—perhaps from the 9th Rifle Battalion, Russian Volunteer Corps or 36th Marine Brigade—attacked west of the chemical plant and advanced several blocks to the north, cutting off the Russians in the plant from their comrades to the west.

“The Russians are surrounded here with zero chances of evacuation or reinforcements,” one Ukrainian drone operator crowed. “A bunch of dead and wounded orcs,” they added, using a slang term for Russian soldiers.

Russian commanders knew they were in trouble. This weekend, they ordered their troops west of the chemical plant to fight their through the Ukrainian positions. “Two attempts to break through to the surrounded Russian forces were repelled by the Ukrainian defense forces,” according to the Center for Defense Strategies.

That’s apparently when the surrounded Russians began surrendering en masse. While Russian and Ukrainian forces routinely capture each other, they rarely do so by the dozen. The biggest captures tend to take place during major urban sieges and chaotic hasty retreats.

Early in the war, hundreds of Ukrainian troops surrendered after holding out for weeks in the besieged southern city of Mariupol. Nearly two years later in mid-February, advancing Russian regiments captured dozens of Ukrainians retreating from the ruins of Avdiivka in eastern Ukraine.

That so many Russians surrendered at the same time Vovchansk, a town that neither side fully controls and which very much remains in contention, should startle Russian commanders. The Russian army wasn’t supposed to get bogged down in Vovchansk. And it certainly wasn’t supposed to lose scores of troops in a failed attempt to capture a staging base for an eventual attempt to cross one narrow river in the middle of the town.

It should go without saying that whatever the Russians’ goals were when they crossed the border into northern Ukraine last month, they’re not only not achieving them—their prospects for eventual success are slipping farther away as their forces get blocked, cut off and forced to surrender.”


132 posted on 06/16/2024 5:17:36 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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To: Widget Jr; tennmountainman
I posted the titles and links to articles by The Telegraph and Independent about Russians surrendering in Vovochansk, and that other news services were reporting the same. That is not editing.

In support of a thread article which began, "Historic news as 400 Russian soldiers have surrendered in central Vovchansk, the largest mass surrender of the entire war on the Russian side," and the request of tennmountainman that "I looked for credible news about this. Searched Google News... Please provide a link from a Credible News Article other than 'The Enforcer'," you responded,

OK. Performing my own Google search for Vovchansk surrender.

The Telegraph, "Russian soldiers surrender after failed raid on chemical factory Video appears to confirm reports that troops have been giving themselves up around the town of Vovchansk", 14 June 2024

This source, and others you cited, reported that two dozen or 24 soldiers surrendered. You did not mention that your sources showed that the thread article exaggerated the number surrendered by 1,666%. People not going to the link and reading what was there were inevitably misled to believe that your sources affirmed the thread article when in reality, the number cited at the links was 24, not 400, revealing the thread article claim as just more propaganda.

138 posted on 06/16/2024 9:06:36 PM PDT by woodpusher
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