Posted on 06/14/2024 9:11:09 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
And always were.
The 17th amendment destroyed the republic. We are not a republic as founded anymore.
I went to HS from 1983 to 1987 and back then, civics class (freshman year) taught that the USA is a “representative democracy”. I haven’t asked anyone what year the change was made, but this lie goes back decades.
We are a representative republic!!!!!
This is why we write down orders, goals and objectives, mission statements and other things isn't it? So we don't get too awfully lost from our original thoughts or led astray by deceivers.
Confusion of the written word has been bad enough. Never mind the spoken. Now we add to it the confusion introduced by virtually everyone appearing to have some authority, real or just asserted, via the global speaker's platform of the galactic net. How can any reader of this mess of supposed facts have any discernment when he never knew the authoritative and trustworthy truth in the first place?
We only had modified mob rule to begin with. Now we probably don’t even have that.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.Wonder what the ignorant supporters of the amendment thought they were doing? Woodrow Wilson knew the purpose.
… The thesis of the state socialist is that no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the state may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory. Applied in a democratic state, such doctrine sounds radical, but not revolutionary. It is only an acceptance of the extremest logical conclusions deducible from democratic principles long ago received as respectable. For it is very clear that in fundamental theory, socialism and democracy are almost, if not quite, one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members. Men as communities are supreme over men as individuals. …111 years of Wilson’s “democracy” really ripped the heart out of the country.
— Wilson, Socialism and Democracy, 1887
A representative form of government just puts a damper in front of mob rule. It only works when it has to go slow. Just like Covid, when it moves fast it becomes savage and heartless filled with fear. Just another form of a mob isn't it?
Think of all the extra-Constitutional departments that issue and enforce edicts, like the Department of Education, the Energy Department, ATF, etc.
These should be things that the democratically elected congress should be doing.
Not paper pushers with an agenda.
CNN needs to read a text book.
+1
The US is not now, nor ever has been a democracy.
I was in HS 1964 to 1968 and we were taught that the USA is a representative republic.
"What a bunch of ignorant Trump Supporters...they don't even know we live in a democracy!"
Oh, wait...
I am reading an interesting book written by General George Kenny, "General Kenny Reports". It is amazingly fast paced written in first person for the most part. Something like 800 pages and I managed only 129 yesterday evening. It has been used as a text for War College. The fineness of detail is astounding. Kenny was commander of allied air forces and Fifth Air Force in the SW Pacific in WWII of course.
What Kenny found when he took command of a failed outfit was what I have said about organizations with too many people. He even found the mess of a version of DEI. Provide someone a position and he will make a job out of it. Without direction and need he will build an empire of trouble. That is what Kenny found when he arrived in Brisbane, Australia in September 1942. He dismantled it. Quickly! He also dismantled the ridiculous version of DEI he found.
Managers, and the higher they are the worse it is, inevitably think that when you have less of something, like progress, you need more of only one thing, people. I can think of many times I have taken over a problem only to be offered more people to fix it, that is not usually the solution. Onboarding more people into a mess without a solid plan or need only makes a bigger mess. The world is often Pareto or should be. When 20% of the people are producing 80% of the work you need to get the 80% the hell out of their way and start again from there. Argentina?
Thanks; that adds perspective. Wonder when they added the word “representative”?
False comparison. The present federal government is not the same as set up by the Founding Fathers.
Well, you make a very good point. Facts are stubborn things.
The best description I’ve read is this ...
While often categorized as a democracy, the United States is more accurately defined as a constitutional federal republic. What does this mean? “Constitutional” refers to the fact that government in the United States is based on a Constitution which is the supreme law of the United States. The Constitution not only provides the framework for how the federal and state governments are structured, but also places significant limits on their powers. “Federal” means that there is both a national government and governments of the 50 states. A “republic” is a form of government in which the people hold power, but elect representatives to exercise that power.
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