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To: GBA
It’s his war. His casualties. And his eternal consequences, too, unless he repents and starts loving his neighbors instead of trying to kill and subjugate them.

The 2019 Rand Corporation report on Russia recommended the US provoke a war using Ukraine. This is after the Color Revolution on Russia’s border fomented by the same parties. How is fomenting violent unconstitutional revolutions, provoking wars, then funding wars , “loving your neighbor?”
289 posted on 06/08/2024 7:36:03 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Ukraine’s problems with Putin and Russia go back a ways before 2019.

If you want to blame all of our and the world’s problems on obama and those who brought that Trojan horse inside our gates to then do all he has and they have done, well, I’ll nod my head along with you while listening to you.

But, it’s still Putin’s war. And I believe he would find, make up or create a reason to do what he’s doing now … and … f someone gives him an excuse to do this, like Vicky Nuland or anyone else you want to blame, so much the better for him.

Human natures says we humans can find a way to justify anything we do, any want or desire or action, no matter how heinous or evil it might be, we can justify doing it, but I don’t think anyone makes Putin do anything. Well, okay, other than maybe Xi.

And maybe his losses there will make him quit, too, but that remains to be seen. If not for help from Korea and China, he would have to quit. Otoh, if the Russians keep losing men and equipment at the current rate, their help won’t be enough anyway.

292 posted on 06/08/2024 7:53:03 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere. Onward through the fog …)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; GBA
The 2019 Rand Corporation report on Russia recommended the US provoke a war using Ukraine. This is after the Color Revolution on Russia’s border fomented by the same parties. How is fomenting violent unconstitutional revolutions, provoking wars, then funding wars , “loving your neighbor?”

It did not such thing, but I would fathom that reading comprehension is hard for people whose first language is other than English.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html

The most promising option then Rand Corporation provided was basically increase US domestic energy production, while Ukraine was mentioned in the report and supplying Ukraine was a possibility the end recommendations had nothing about Ukraine.

And someone forgot that the Color Revolutions occurred not because the US wanted them to happen, but were instead due to Diplomatic Cable leaks which showed just how corrupt many nation states were and caused their populaces to rise up. But "oooooooh color revolution" bogeyman.

While you're not the dumbest person on the internet, you better sure as hope they don't die.

293 posted on 06/08/2024 7:54:04 PM PDT by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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