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Court: mRNA COVID Vaccines Not Vaccines
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Posted on 06/08/2024 8:05:13 AM PDT by cuz1961

Court: mRNA COVID Vaccines Not Vaccines

The 9th Circuit Court has ruled that mRNA Covid vaccines, developed by Pfizer and Moderna, are not vaccines, which removes their legal liability protection. This decision has sparked discussions about potential legal actions against these pharmaceutical companies, with some users expressing skepticism about the vaccines' effectiveness and safety. The ruling also raises questions about the classification of these shots and their implications for future litigation and public health strategies.


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To: cuz1961

For now I’m going to call “Fake News” on this one. This was posted 8 hours ago and not one other article I could find corroborates this info. When I see those, then I’ll reconsider. Right now it’s just an anonymous post on X with no links to back it up.

This is just too much wishful thinking IMHO. It would bankrupt Big Pharma. That’s not in the best interest of the American people right now. Maybe I’m wrong but I do think we need honest and well meaning pharmaceutical companies. I know Big Pharma pulled a fast and loose one with the covid jab and all other mRNA jabs but let’s see how this plays out before getting too excited.


21 posted on 06/08/2024 8:40:08 AM PDT by Boomer (If the Nazi-Rats and Rinos win, everyone loses. The Uniparty can no longer claim they are American.)
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To: cuz1961

Keeping it simple :

MRNA KILLs, many of us already knew this. It is time for Justice.


22 posted on 06/08/2024 8:40:32 AM PDT by delta7
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To: cockroach_magoo

why thank you cockroach_magoo

(#TaraReadeToo #AshleyBidenToo.)

most timely


23 posted on 06/08/2024 8:41:06 AM PDT by cuz1961
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To: CatOwner

I thank God every day that I live in a red state. I’m sorry for those FReepers who don’t.


24 posted on 06/08/2024 8:43:17 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: cuz1961
"The 9th Circuit Court has ruled that mRNA Covid vaccines, developed by Pfizer and Moderna, are not vaccines, which removes their legal liability protection."

absolutely false:

the 9th appellate court ruled that, based on the limited information provided, that that the lower court incorrectly relied on a 1905 law specific to smallpox vaccination that "PREVENTS the spread of disease", and that therefore they sent the lawsuit back to the lower court to reconsider WITHOUT reference to the 1905 law, since the limited facts before the appellate court indicated that the covid vaccines did not prevent the spread of disease:

"We note the PRELIMINARY nature of our holding. We do not prejudge whether, on a more developed factual record, Plaintiffs’ allegations will prove true. But “[w]hether an action ‘can be dismissed on the pleadings depends on what the pleadings say.’” Marshall Naify Revocable Tr. v. United States, 672 F.3d 620, 625 (9th Cir. 2012) (quoting Weisbuch v. County of Los Angeles, 119 F.3d 778, 783 n.1 (9th Cir. 1997)). Because we thus must accept them as true, Plaintiffs have plausibly alleged that the COVID-19 vaccine does not effectively “prevent the spread” of COVID-19. Thus, Jacobson does not apply, and so we vacate the district court’s order of dismissal and remand."

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2024/06/07/22-55908.pdf

[it's really NOT a good idea to rely on some random Grok X posting as gospel]

25 posted on 06/08/2024 8:43:20 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: exDemMom

Still pushing covid “vaccines”? You should be ashamed of yourself.


26 posted on 06/08/2024 8:45:49 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: cuz1961

How long until those infected with the virus can sue government for its complicity in it’s development and release?


27 posted on 06/08/2024 8:50:44 AM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: exDemMom

Good luck putting earrings on the vaccine pig.


28 posted on 06/08/2024 8:52:30 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Boomer

> It would bankrupt Big Pharma. That’s not in the best interest of the American people right now. <

Yep. The entire Covid thing needs to be honestly investigated. We cannot make that same mistake again.

Beyond that, Big Pharma is a greed machine that has saved millions of lives over the years. And made the lives of millions more better.

That’s the way greed machines often work. They produce some very good things.


29 posted on 06/08/2024 8:52:38 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Flaming Conservative

No worries, they’ll be arriving to keep you company soon!


31 posted on 06/08/2024 8:53:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: exDemMom

https://healthfreedomdefense.org/huge-legal-victory-hfdf-wins-appeal-in-ninth-circuit/

There’s a hyperlink to the 30+ page decision at the above.

Enjoy.


32 posted on 06/08/2024 8:54:07 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: catnipman

Thanks for researching and posting that section of the court’s ruling.

While not a “victory” as such, it is a little bit of positive news.


33 posted on 06/08/2024 8:55:20 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: cuz1961

As stated on FR for years and denied for years by the $hot$hills


34 posted on 06/08/2024 8:56:58 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: cuz1961

Not vaccines? Imagine that, another “lie” is ruled to be truth. I remember a lot of screechy arguments over this during the big “vaxx” push.

It now turns out NOBODY was vaccinated.


35 posted on 06/08/2024 8:59:16 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: exDemMom

—> So, based on Twitter tweets, I am to accept at face value that judges are now better experts on what a vaccine is than the scientists who actually study vaccines?

Legal decision that strips protection from the criminal Pharma companies .

You have been their accomplice in pushing these frankenshots, so there’s that…


36 posted on 06/08/2024 8:59:40 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

No, it doesn’t. https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2024/06/07/22-55908.pdf

The court made no ruling on that - the only place it is even mentioned is where they are summarizing what was stated in the filings by both sides. The only thing ruled upon was the obviously bogus contention it was moot as the basis for dismissal because they ended the mandate after litigation, not before.


37 posted on 06/08/2024 9:00:47 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: cuz1961
Hmmm.. ordinarily, I would give out with the big AH-HA.!! But, it is after all the 9th. court....so, you know.
38 posted on 06/08/2024 9:04:17 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: catnipman

Thanks.


39 posted on 06/08/2024 9:06:44 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: exDemMom

You shouldn’t have accepted it and just looked it up. The Court made no such finding or ruling.

These people haven’t exactly been accurate or honest in the past - why assume they were this time? Same way they falsified the findings of studies, etc. countless numbers of times, claimed suicides, drug overdoses, etc. were caused by the vax - showing up like vultures on a given thread in a seemingly festive mood every time someone dies to claim it was the vax before any information is known, just like those who get all excited every time there is a shooting to blame it on the NRA, “systemic racism”, or whatever narrative. They are the Left made over. No facts, just narratives. Even arguing until they are blue in the face that data collected well before the vaccine or the pandemic itself event existed was caused by the vaccines. These are not people for which truth / accuracy has any meaning - not just on this, but a host of topics. I had the nerve to point out that data collected from 1990-2019 was prior to the vaccine - for which - doing such a thing makes you a “Deep state shill for the vax.” Just one of many examples. That indicates they are just about pushing a narrative - not actually caring about what the facts or the truth of the situation may be.


40 posted on 06/08/2024 9:10:05 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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