[Sequoyah101]

Far too complex to be reliable. Most of the stuff that is on them is just to gain markup in price. None of the new gadgets are necessary. NONE. Most are not even practical, useful or desirable. More of a nuisance than a luxury or even benefit.

If I could buy a new Buick Roadmaster, Park Avenue or Lucerne or Grand Marquis for their cost new plus normal inflation I'd do it today. As it is, I'll keep figuring out how to extend the life of the vehicles I have.

[TexasGator]

“Most are not even practical, useful or desirable. More of a nuisance than a luxury or even benefit.”

Which ones?

[doorgunner69]

All that electronic crap the new cars come loaded with is a farce. Much of it fails fairly fast.

I was given a Jaguar F coupe as a rentla (not what i wanted) and the damn thing took me ten minutes to figure out how to drive with all the gismos. Reven the side mirrors had to deply, the center dash rise up, etc.

All thos little motors responding to some computer when to do their thing. Recipe for failures.

I see brand new BMWs being taken back to the dealer on flatbeds all the time here.
Easy bet it was an electrical failure.