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Researchers develop water-based battery that has twice the energy density of lithium batteries: 'Demonstrating significant stability'
The Cool Down ^ | May 30, 2024 | Leslie Sattler

Posted on 05/30/2024 6:12:18 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: ComputerGuy

“Everything is impossible until someone does it.” - Robert Heinlein


21 posted on 05/30/2024 7:15:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: TalBlack

Replacing the anode every 1000km (620 miles) would be a pain............


22 posted on 05/30/2024 7:17:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: logi_cal869

There may not be A truly effective battery anytime soon but there will be stories of revolutionary battery breakthrough technology every few weeks. Breakthrough battery stories are a regular hopium theme for at least a decade.


23 posted on 05/30/2024 7:21:39 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: Red Badger

Water-based so that it can self-extinguish when it bursts Into flame? J/k


24 posted on 05/30/2024 7:22:27 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

The greenies will have a field day declaring we are running out of water because of this battery!... We are in ‘Peak’ Water!....................


25 posted on 05/30/2024 7:24:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Was it you that posted about an emerging tech where it will take just 1 minute to recharge phone batteries and 10 minutes for car battery? Can’t remeber where I saw that yesterday. THAT would be cool if possible. But I’d still charge and store my mandated electric car outside IF we are all forced to go that route.


26 posted on 05/30/2024 7:25:36 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

‘Twas me.................


27 posted on 05/30/2024 7:26:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, but does going from 80% to 30% count as half of a cycle? Also keep in mind that a Tesla battery is actually a battery of batteries, and is designed to rotate which cells it charges and “tops off” to maximize battery life. There is no mention of the Chinese water battery being made of multiple independent cells.

In a NORMAL (single-cell) lithium battery, constantly topping off makes the battery deplete FASTER than allowing it to drain more completely before refilling it.


28 posted on 05/30/2024 7:28:43 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Delta 21

“When not if it ignites?” Are you seriously alleging that all lithium batteries eventually ignite? You know Tesla batteries ignite at only 10% of the rate that gasoline engines ignite, and it’s only because the tech is new and the fire is so difficult to extinguish that every last damned Tesla fire makes the news. (Maybe not quite so much any more.) So yeah, ICE engines catch fire 10 times more often, and of course when they do, they’re much more likely to explode. And also, when only the engine catches fire, that’s not even a reported car fire. (My ICE engine caught fire once.)


29 posted on 05/30/2024 7:34:43 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Da Coyote

Demonstrating significant stability just like C4 too huh.


30 posted on 05/30/2024 7:40:28 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Red Badger

LOL, exactly! Just 5nink abput how many batteries will be needed if the left push us to all electric soon- the demand for batteries will be simly massive- storage of said batteries will be in high demand, there wil. Be mountains of old worn put batteries laying around. Calif recently had severe restrictions on water usage. The greenness will be screaming about water shortages, “man causing water depletion” etc, and the price of batteries Wil. Skyrocket as a result, especially in liberal woke states.


31 posted on 05/30/2024 7:40:34 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Red Badger

[[Plus, by making EVs more practical for more people, this technology could help put a major dent in the carbon dioxide pollution overheating our Earth]]

They had to throw that lie in there. A rise in co2 always, always follows a rise in temperatures, 100’s of years after temperature rises- never the other way around d, proving that something is causes temperatures to fluctuate, not co2!


32 posted on 05/30/2024 7:44:52 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Dutch Boy
The hopium battery. What a concept!

Sites like The Cool Down exist to keep the ignorati convinced that Climate Remediation is worth the staggering cost.

"Every great cause begins as a movement, evolves into business, and finally becomes a racket." Eric Hoffer - The Longshoreman Philosopher

33 posted on 05/30/2024 7:45:06 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: dangus
You know Tesla batteries ignite at only 10% of the rate that gasoline engines ignite.....

I'd like to see a valid study that supports that claim.

34 posted on 05/30/2024 7:58:37 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Red Badger

“Aqueous batteries use water as the solvent for electrolytes, enhancing the safety of the batteries.”

isn’t that how lead-acid batteries work now: sulfuric acid dissolved in water?


35 posted on 05/30/2024 7:59:20 AM PDT by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: catnipman

Saturated...................


36 posted on 05/30/2024 8:03:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: dangus
Tesla batteries ignite at only 10% of the rate that gasoline engines ignite,

"!0% the rate"???

Please define that term.

Please cite your sources.

Please show your work.

Thank you.

37 posted on 05/30/2024 8:12:02 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Dutch Boy

That’s my point: If any of this was truly a breakthrough, it would NOT be published until patents are filed.

Other factors: I still remember the stories of the 100mpg carburetor and what killed the GM EV1.

Government mandates in a free market do not trump either customer preferences or convenience, and technology limitations - coupled with basic logistics, such as grid and underlying mineral requirements (lithium, copper, etc.) - are assured to guarantee loss of profits, reflecting industry opposition to said mandates for EVs.

That stated, this admin - in concert with other parties - is hellbent upon destroying the free market and making gasoline uncompetitive in pursuit of its mandate (when it’s not an election year).


38 posted on 05/30/2024 8:34:36 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Red Badger

Water-based?
Does the author mean hydrogen?


39 posted on 05/30/2024 8:36:51 AM PDT by rainee (Trump won! )
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To: NorthMountain

Why are there so many luddites on FR?

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=ice+fires+vs+ev


40 posted on 05/30/2024 8:42:31 AM PDT by BereanBrain
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