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To: GenXPolymath
Humans need to move as rapidly as possible away from burning liquid hydrocarbons to the sky and using them only for petrochemicals, medications, fertilizers, lubricants and polymers

Why thank you for your superior opinion AOC. This is the "peak oil" hypothesis, and yes at some point we will run out. However, this does not by any means justify the mad dash to "net zero" nor does it justify the cramming of EVs which are vastly inferior to petrol powered vehicles. down everyone's throats. Let the market decide, not government ignoramuses with their thumb on the scales.

Most urbanites take two trips per year further than 500km the vast majority of trips are under 30km a day. There are no less than a half dozen battery technologies that can cover 100km per day or less.

A big fat so what to this. Unless you plan to NEVER go past the average daily use EV's are to quote Jeremy Clarkson, crap. And WHERE IS THE POWER COMING FROM? The transportation sector of the USA uses the approximate power equivalent of every nuclear power plant in the country running flat out. I forget how many there are I seem to remember there are about 70 of them, each with more than one reactor. Do you really think that this much generation can com from wind (unicorn farts) and solar (rainbows)?

Rural is over represented in this board that much is obvious by the lack of knowledge of what real urban life is like. A lot of people don’t even own cars in NYC, London, Tokyo or Mexico City. Parking is a nightmare , and expensive to say the least about congestion tolls and super high insurance rate

I disagree with that; as an example I lived in NYC for a couple of miserable years (North part of the Bronx just shy of Yonkers) and I found a car to be an absolute necessity to get away from "the city" which we did several times a week.

You totally ignore the nature of the electric grid and the demands on it for charging. Let's ignore L1 charging as useless because it is and go to L2 and L3. L2 charging is 240v which is the residential standard in the US. so lets see what the demand is to half charge a Tesla model 3 with an 80 kwh battery. First 80 kwh is 100 amps at 800 volts for an hour, but lets do half of this 50 amps at 800 volts for an hour. Ignoring transformer loss This is 167 amps at 240 V most modern houses are wired at 200 amp service, so this is most of the service. Now if 100 houses half charge EVs every night this is 4000 kwh or 4mwh. Night is base load time - nuclear and hydro so these run pretty much maxed out all the time. So if you have 100 neighborhoods at 100 houses that's 400 mwh that has to be supplied by something. That's half of the output of a Westinghouse PWR. It won't be solar at night and wind power only works about 25% of the time, to it's time to fire up the combustion turbines. But wait, they burn natural gas something that is also on the bad list for the enviro-wackos, so what you're left with is vehicles (EVs) that are vastly inferior to gas vehicles, and an electrical grid that cannot possibly supply the demand for even daily commuting. What the insane rush away from fossil fuels will cause is a drastic drop in the standard of living and for what? Some badly written science fiction plot of climate change.

40 posted on 05/30/2024 9:39:52 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: from occupied ga

+1

A voice of reason and actual practical knowledge, thankfully.


44 posted on 06/02/2024 2:55:32 PM PDT by mbj
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