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To: Bob Ireland
ransomnote's long response to Bob Ireland. To skip it scroll down to a gif of a prank to play on liberals this summer.

ThankQ for your prior posts detailing busines/court/Congress shutdowns. I read them and forgot to include them because of my feeling about those strategies at this time. I did not properly acknowledge your proposals and for that I apologize.

I'm not against shut downs. I have advocated for shutdowns back in the Covid plandemic days and was unsuccessful in interesting anyone in discussing it. I wouldn't have the resources to organize or motivate people in real life who felt as I did so I resumed red-pilling online where I can 'do more good'.

Part of our divide is our perception of how things are going.

You said: "The 'Rats seem totally unconcerned about the outcome of this election. I hope they are wrong and are caught with their pants down - but I have doubts; they don't❗'

But I believe the DNC/Biden regime is flailing for its life. I suppose if I thought it were more confident, I would believe a shutdown of our legal system might have an impact - but still I personally don't have the social reach IRL to organize or motivate such a move. Our legal system is supposed to function outside of politics and the MSM gladiator ring would portray such a move as a political attack.

You said, " Unhappily, I have lost confidence in elections. I know what happened in 2020 and anyone questioning that outcome has been labeled an insurrectionist by the corrupt DoJ. None of that is happening... NOTHING is happening."

In the present context, I believe this same 'labeling an insurrectionist' by the DOJ would be repeated, but with greater intensity, on members of the legal community, particularly now that DJT has been falsely convicted (i.e., seen as retaliatory). The same with shutting down Congress - it would be portrayed as insurrectionist, IMHO.

Another aspect of 'how things are going' upon which we don't agree; you feel 'nothing is happening' and I significant matters taking place as the battle between good and evil heats up.

I think I misinterpreted your statement, "The American people will HAVE to stand up and take control of their govt 💪 or stop all the whining."

I interpreted the 'fist' in your post as 'get physically agressive'. I responded by pointing to the over-reaction of the DOJ to mere public assembly and the performance of free speech, along with the right citizens have to walk into the Capitol grounds when police open the gates/doors and welcome them in.

I said it thusly, Brave, legitimate patriot heros, including Trump, did stand up and protest on Jan 6 - they weren't whining. Most of the protesters are still abused in jail. Biden wants us to protest so he can call it another violent threat to democracy and strip us of the right to assembly, free speech, 2nd amendment by claiming MAGA is laboring to overthrow the country.

You responded with: I say Americans need to stand up and I give some good examples, examples tried in history and you respond with the idea that those standing up would be punished by the masses that don't care about Constitutional abuses.

I didn't say the uncaring masses would punish protestors and didn't intend to imply it. I specified actions I believe Brandon would take (attack on our constitutional rights etc.)

I don't support legal system and Congressional shutdowns at this time, and I didn't mention the timing and context issues before, while Trump is being threatened by the DOJ because I beleive it would be cast as retaliatory for his conviction.

I didn't address your 'businesses shut down' before. I advocated for that during the plandemic - a time when businesses were already suffering (yeah, my timing was off). I'm not against the idea of businesses conducting shutdowns, but successful boycots (Bud Light) show that the public is often not brought together by tactics which can be seen, and will be portrayed in the media, as political  punishments.

You said, You wouldn't have been very popular in the American Revolution. You seem to say not to fight or do much of anything and somebody else will solve our problems.

Your statement about American Revolutionaries here supported my interpretation of your use of the 💪 icon (physical aggression, sabotague). Revolutionary warriors did not conduct business or legal shutdowns to my knowledge and had they done so, I'd be looking at their context/timing versus ours before I gave an opinion. So If I am wrong about what your 💪 icon, and reference to the contrast between my position and that popular during the American Revolution are meant to imply, then please help me catch up. 

Shutdowns the MSM will portray as political retaliation have the potential to be divisive so I'd need details and context before I supported them. The 'other side' could respond with shutdowns or boycotts of their own. This polarization would come at a time when Trump has brought our country together like never before.

In the wrong context, or the wrong timing, the result could be reminiscent of the Civil War, and not the Revolutionary War. Trump/Q are not pacifists; they know the CIA/DS specialize in civil unrest by any means 'neccessary' and the cabal created organizations like the UN to make sure they would 'get' to decide who wins such conflicts. That's why their overall strategy maintains the public peace, and the DS continuously tries to destabilize it. Protest - yes, but when and where appropriate. Ditto shutdowns.

Here you contrast what you see as 'our' behavior (sitting enjoying our coffee).

You said, "To think that we can sit back and enjoy our coffee while our champion is threatened with prison and possible murder - well, as I say, not in the American Revolution.

There's a reason we've been hammered on by trolls since the beginning. The Information War is real and we are fighting in it. Again, your reference here to the American Revolution

You said: I guess we will have to agree to disagree. If they come to get me for standing up against them and accusing me of insurrection and do me harm - well, give me liberty or give me death! WWG1WGA❗"

Depending on the circumstances, we may be standing beside you. The current circumstances are best served by Trump/Q strategies.

Because I always think of sabotague/violence, I searched to finds protest content from the Revolutionary period. This is is an excerpt of marketing information in the online museum's website (emphasis mine).

Protest in Early America Discovery

The American Revolution transformed how people around the world thought about protest. You may have heard of the most dramatic protest events of the 1760s and 1770s, like the Boston Tea Party and the Boston Massacre. But throughout the Revolutionary era, Americans of all sorts pioneered new forms of protest and debated what kinds of protests were legitimate. They questioned not just what people were protesting but also who was protesting and how they went about it.

With the ratification of the Constitution, protest became not a dangerous last resort but rather a core American right enshrined in the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights, which guarantees citizens the rights of assembly, speech, and petition. Americans still debate when it is acceptable to engage in a protest, what qualifies as a necessary one, and even what to call specific acts of protest.

With this discovery cart, learn how early Americans used boycotts, printed propaganda, violence, and public demonstrations to advocate for various causes, and consider the similarities and differences between the 18th century through to today.

At this point I am questioning, not what people should protest, but how such protests supports or detracts from Trump/Q's plans, the timing/optics/outcomes, etc. So in this regard - my questioning of best tactics is compatible with Revolutionary War history.

Note the Revolutionary warriors fought with information warfare ('printed propaganda'). Our efforts to red-pill the public with the truth to break through the MSM/CIA psyops and propaganda domains are again compatible with the resistance during the Revolutionary war. SOMETHING is happening, Bob. And WE are DOING it. Yes - we have to keep eyes out and cultivate more and better strategies, but we're not just sitting here enjoying our coffee while DJT is threatened with death. The public needs to support DJT and by breaking through MSM lies with red-pilling, we help them see WHY he's worth it. Their attitudes have changed from 2016 to present, and we helped change hearts and minds by sharing the truth.

Trump/Q said, 'Get loud, be heard.' There's still room for protest, but first comes strategy. I'm not personally organizing them because I lack the resources and am more effective in the 'Revolutionary' information war  effort.

I said, and still say, "What is routinely missing from exasperated complaints, about perceived inactivity of our dedicated patriots volunteering in the information war, is any sort of strategy.

You said, "Individual protests and protest groups are good, but they will largely be ignored by the Pravda media. FR red pilling is good... but the overall public will not be much awakened to stand up. FReepers could try to organize such community protests at home - in coordination with each other."

Good details! It sounds like you may feel called to organize such community protests!

As I previously said, ....We need numbers at protests - I'm not good at in-person recruiting and public speaking, but maybe you are. Or have you found a group or groups worth supporting? Then share the information about the groups so we can assess and update our knowledge and potential need for comfortable shoes with which to attend protests.

....We may ALL, to the best of our ability, serve time in protests or at rallies, collect signatures or funds for the effort, at various times but for now, I know my calling is in the information war, where at present, I can do the most good.

Perhaps your skill set as a communicator, organizer, motivator etc. is leading you to invest your efforts in the visible displays of support you might be referring to. Prayers up for your success in wherever you are called.

You said, "Do you know what ended the Muslim Brotherhood takeover of Egypt in the 'Arab Spring' (another CIA color revolution)❓ A massive public shutdown of everything for one day. The streets were filled with people - protesters and casuals together. Imagine Egypt showing ➡America👈 how to fight for freedom❗❗❗❗"

I think that's possible among the unified public. It would take substantial organizing and during that time period, Antifa would be gearing up to disrupt and this time I think the false flagging would be done on an unprecedented scale. I don't know how to prevent the Biden regime from false flagging in key cities and then shutting down the right to assemble, the right to online groups (FR) etc. But those touch on skills sets and access I don't have. It's worth praying about - asking for insight and wisdom how best to protest/resist.

You said (rn: emphasis mine), "I advocate for widespread national protests by any and various groups to demonstrate to the smug tyrants that we the people are not going to accept this lying down. You think that is unnecessary because the Dems are in full panic mode. I don't see their actions as panic - but even if the British Red Coats were in panic in the American Revolution, they still sent an army to crush the resistance❗"

I mentioned the Dems full panic mode to mean they know they are losing and the public is uniting against them. I did not mean to imply resistance or protest is unnecessary, instead I have pointed to the effective strategies I favor now in play by Q/Q+ and which has created rat panic. Again, I am not against protest but I personally am not investing my time in that effort at this time because I'm focused on the information war effort. If I see info or groups forming to enact protests I feel will be effective, I will then share that information out. SOmetimes we just don't have enough information about organizers or intents (remember that Capitol 'protest' mainly attended by the FBI?) so I have to be careful with what I share or post as threads.

Sidenote: I've been meaning to post this theory but haven't seen a place to do it.
I believe that the Abbercrombie and Fitch appareled CIA/FBI agents photographed and mocked at the failed Capitol protest were dressed like that (identically dressed and groomed like CIA/FBI) specifically to be photographed and mocked. If they were not supposed to stand out - they would have dressed to blend in like they usually do when infiltrating such events, and have done worldwide for decades. If they were 'normal' agitator 'inserts' instead of intel props, the MSM's cameras would never have found them. They would have waited for the crowd to fill in first before entering the green instead of standing there like dandelions in an otherwise perfect lawn.

I believe there were other inconspicuously attired CIA/FBI there waiting to cause mayhem. When violence broke out, the  'choir boy' dandelions would be tracked by the cameras as they pretended to 'heroically' subdue their normally dressed colleague infiltrators. At which point, the Abercrombie/Fitch choir boys would be reported as good-guy CIA/FBI operatives 'just doing their jobs' protecting the public from MAGA insurrectionists. Leaving the CIA/FBI dandelions in place when the crowd didn't show up still was a successful psyop, because the public was led to believe these traitors are just silly, easily identified buffoons of little threat, instead of the ruthless blood thirsty traitors they are.

I feel the same way about the marching fake patriots dressed identically and carrying flags. Mocked, laughed at, but law abiding and stupidly obvious. Elsewhere the CIA/FBI traitors are at work, dressed to blend in, trying to kill democracy. Classic misdirection - one hand attracts attention while the otherhand wields the weapon.

The following is British but I couldn't resist because our 45 was arrested by Puppet 'King' Biden. :D

"45" Shirt Buckle

 

This reproduction shirt buckle features the number "45" as a tribute to English politician John Wilkes. In the 45th issue of his newspaper, The North Briton, Wilkes sharply criticized King George III's speech at the 1763 opening of Parliament. The King immediately had Wilkes arrested. When the charges were dismissed and Wilkes was restored to his seat, the number "45" became a symbol of radical politics.


984 posted on 06/01/2024 2:01:09 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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986 posted on 06/01/2024 2:33:06 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
We seem to have reached the point of repeating ourselves - a pointless expenditure of time and energy. It grieves me that you interpret my 'strong arm' emoji - which I have used around about on social media with the message, 'Be strong!' - as being an advocate for violence, which reputation I have enjoyed the opposite opinion on this thread... but so be it.

A few times you cite that the consequences of active organized protest will bring retribution from the powers of govt - promoting fear as a reason to stand down. OK for those who choose to react with fear; who could advise otherwise? A zebra could not change its stripes.

As to me organizing protests, I am doing that here and now. I am an old man who doesn't choose to leave the house very often, for health reasons I won't go into. What I say and do here is what I do. No one is criticized for not following my advice or accepting my exhortations. My day is nearly over. I am doing what I can. I didn't expect to be misunderstood by people who have known me for nearly 30 years, but...🤷

These are the times we have talked about since the beginning of FR. We have played a pivotal role in such things as the impeachment of Bill Clinton (when we went spontaneously and demonstrated in D.C. - and Cong. Bob Barr told us had we not done so, impeachment would not have happened), the unseating of Dan Rather, the deceits of Obama and other national figures, many more. Let us continue to unite for freedom's fight and the righteousness of God.

So mote it be.👈

1,028 posted on 06/01/2024 7:48:36 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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