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To: CondoleezzaProtege
From a secular standpoint, correct. But remember that even young women can have infertility. Medical fact indeed.

I know a couple who many many years ago were trying to get pregnant (she was in her 20s, early 30s at the time).

Never happened. Turned out she had unknowingly gone through menopause prematurely and had no hope of conceiving.

37 posted on 05/24/2024 12:32:45 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta

According to Genesis 29-30, Leah had 7 children before her younger sister Rachel had her first child. So it’s not a new problem.


41 posted on 05/24/2024 1:35:55 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Lizavetta
had unknowingly gone through menopause prematurely

Oh dear! Hopefully this was redeemed in some way and they are enjoying a beautiful marriage.

And kind of on topic...but some of the most moving videos I've viewed on YouTube are of young couples locking eyes with their adopted newborn for the first time. OMG. TEARS. It's a miracle of its own.

I think one of the reasons behind the outcry to Butker's speech was precisely due to individuals who find themselves in situations like the couple you mention. Women in particular bear a lot of needless guilt, shame, and pressure regarding things ranging from miscarriage to infertility, to not having a perfect "natural" birth experience, to formula feeding instead of nursing, you name it...It's bad enough when the judgment comes from the mommy war brigade. So without meaning to, they are hearing Butker's words out of context through that prism.

50 posted on 05/25/2024 2:44:27 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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