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Why Steven Van Zandt Thinks Classic Rock ‘Is Going to Die’
UltimateClassicRock ^ | May 23rd, 2024 | Corey Irwin

Posted on 05/23/2024 3:48:00 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Steven Van Zandt has a pessimistic outlook when he ponders the future of classic rock.

During an appearance on Club Random with Bill Maher, the E Street Band guitarist examined the way music consumption has changed.

“Right now, because the record industry is dead, there’s no more record sales other than Taylor Swift and Beyonce,” Van Zandt declared. Instead, he explained, films and television shows have become the best way for recording artists to make money. However, even that has become problematic because musicians have upped their licensing fees in order to survive.

“You got a bunch of whatever, 25 year-olds with a song list with a number next to it,” Van Zandt noted. “So if you want to make a movie or TV show, you ask for the song, they look at the number and they charge you that number, which is always high because there's no other income.”

Because classic rock offers material that’s recognizable to a wide swath of listeners, it's often the most-licensed genre of music. However, Van Zandt believes the filmmakers will pull away from classic rock in the face of soaring licensing costs, thus removing an important avenue for songs to be exposed to new listeners.

“This is a real problem. And I think 10 years from now, 20 years from now, it's going to be a problem because all this music is going to die if it's not promoted and heard,” Van Zandt insisted. “It's going to be like, Motown who? Rolling Stones who?”

Steven Van Zandt Hopes Laws Around Song Licensing Will Change

Van Zandt suggested law changes around licensing music as a compromise to keep filmmakers and musicians happy. He then noted how different the modern landscape is compared to when the E Street Band and Bruce Springsteen got started.

“When we started, music in movies was free. It was free,” he explained. “Martin Scorsese. He didn't even ask for permission to put [the Ronettes’] ‘Be My Baby’ in Mean Streets because it was free. And people thought of it as promoting the records. Nobody’s promoting the records anymore.”

Van Zandt pointed to the popular series Stranger Things as an example of how TV and film can bring new attention to classic tracks. The guitarist insisted such licensing is vital for classic rock's continuing survival.

“When our generation goes, who’s going to know about this stuff?”


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: classicrock; music
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To: ansel12

:)


81 posted on 05/23/2024 5:51:39 PM PDT by dljordan (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: nickcarraway
There are some artists who are creating new classic rock and roll, such as this band from the Baltic:

Are You Ready?--The Hi-Flyin' Combo (2020)

82 posted on 05/23/2024 5:58:52 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: uranium penguin

Our local “classic rock” station plays the same 50 songs all day long.

Zzzzzzz


83 posted on 05/23/2024 6:09:49 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: nickcarraway

He had a “pessimistic” view on everything. F’n idiot is a liberal


84 posted on 05/23/2024 6:21:33 PM PDT by albie
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To: nickcarraway

Like SVZ, and Bruce, now Mick Jagger, and McCartney, et al, they’ve embraced Leftism.

This not only alienates much of their audience, it also drains their creative juices that defines rock and roll


85 posted on 05/23/2024 6:23:05 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: nickcarraway

Plenty of good music still being produced. It’s just coming out of Northern Europe in places like Finland.


86 posted on 05/23/2024 6:36:59 PM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: rktman

You might like it. SVZ is the star, and it’s a bit “out there” like Sopranos was. Three seasons, on Prime.


87 posted on 05/23/2024 7:03:07 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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To: nickcarraway
Sirius XM had a lot of great classic rock and progressive rock DJs spinning deep tracks and practicing "free form" radio. However, they are all rapidly dying off.

Earle Bailey (Deep Tracks) is one of the last ones still alive and spinning.

88 posted on 05/23/2024 7:07:00 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (6,575,474 Truth | 87,429,044 Twitter)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Thanks.


89 posted on 05/23/2024 7:07:19 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: nickcarraway

almost all “classic” rock should be in the public domain by now. Eternal copyright is going to kill it if nothing else will.


90 posted on 05/23/2024 7:10:38 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: sevlex
Blame the Telecommunications Act of 1996.

That's part of it. Eternal copyright isn't helping either.

91 posted on 05/23/2024 7:12:25 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: dfwgator

That sign’s been updated to include “Sweet Child o’ Mine” and a few others, too, depending on the store.


92 posted on 05/23/2024 7:16:45 PM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere. Onward through the fog …)
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To: plain talk
The better stuff will survive. The lightweight and mediocre stuff will generally be forgotten.

a thousand years from now, people while know who Bach was and will listen to him. If the music is good, it will be remembered. It is unfortunate that by the time modern-day copyright expires, a lot of really good music will be forgotten. Some will be rediscovered 50 years from now.

93 posted on 05/23/2024 7:20:37 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: newfreep
NYT Says Taylor Swift Is Bigger Than The Beatles!? - Rick Beato video

He does a great takedown. Rick is awesome.

94 posted on 05/23/2024 7:28:03 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: nickcarraway

we’ve commenting lately about the extremely crappy made-for-just-this-movie-or-TV-show “songs” that no one has ever heard of before and wondering why none of the classic rock songs were used anymore ...

van zandt explained perfectly what’s going on:

“Right now, because the record industry is dead, there’s no more record sales other than Taylor Swift and Beyonce,” Van Zandt declared. Instead, he explained, films and television shows have become the best way for recording artists to make money. However, even that has become problematic because musicians have upped their licensing fees in order to survive. “So if you want to make a movie or TV show, you ask for the song, they look at the number and they charge you that number, which is always high because there’s no other income.”

Because classic rock offers material that’s recognizable to a wide swath of listeners, it’s often the most-licensed genre of music. However, Van Zandt believes the filmmakers will pull away from classic rock in the face of soaring licensing costs, thus removing an important avenue for songs to be exposed to new listeners.

“This is a real problem. And I think 10 years from now, 20 years from now, it’s going to be a problem because all this music is going to die if it’s not promoted and heard,” Van Zandt insisted.

[so basically, the mindless, ubiquitous greed of what’s left of the music industry will kill the goose that laid the golden egg]


95 posted on 05/23/2024 7:55:29 PM PDT by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: gathersnomoss

Good morning Mr Tyler. Going down?


96 posted on 05/23/2024 7:55:30 PM PDT by Dartoid
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To: All

I like it all, but beautiful music, easy listening, bossa nova, even 101 strings stuff, Bacharach, smooth jazz, elevator muzak, wow....good background music around the abode.

Shopping store music back in the day was sweeeet. Yes indeed.


97 posted on 05/23/2024 8:15:18 PM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: nickcarraway

All the radio stations, record company executives push is hip-hop crap 24-7. It’s all garbage. So far 3 out of 4 of my kids hate it all and like classic rock and 90’s country.


98 posted on 05/23/2024 8:19:16 PM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: SamAdams76

Earle Bailey (Deep Tracks) is one of the last ones still alive and spinning

Recently discovered his channel. Worth listening


99 posted on 05/23/2024 8:56:45 PM PDT by drSteve78 ( Older Je suis Deplorable. Even more so)
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To: nickcarraway

We’ve heard this before. Rock and Roll was supposedly dead before the Beatles and then dead when disco arrived.


100 posted on 05/23/2024 9:05:28 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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