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When Windows 10 support runs out, you have 5 options but only 2 are worth considering
ZDnet ^ | April 22, 2024 | Ed Bott

Posted on 05/19/2024 11:57:09 AM PDT by fireman15

Microsoft will officially end support for its most popular operating system in October 2025. Here's what you should do with your Windows 10 PCs before that day arrives.

In less than two years, Microsoft will draw the final curtain on Windows 10 after a successful 10-year run.

That news shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. The end date is right there on the Microsoft Support document that lists "products retiring or reaching the end of support in 2025." The schedule is defined by Microsoft's Modern Lifecycle Policy: "Windows 10 will reach end of support on October 14, 2025. The current version, 22H2, will be the final version of Windows 10, and all editions will remain in support with monthly security update releases through that date."

When a Windows version reaches its end-of-support date, the software keeps working, but the update channel grinds to a halt:

There will be no new security updates, non-security updates, or assisted support. Customers are encouraged to migrate to the latest version of the product or service. Paid programs may be available for applicable products.

That part in the middle sounds encouraging, doesn't it? "Customers are encouraged to migrate to the latest version of the product or service." Unfortunately, that's not a supported option for customers running Windows 10 on hardware that doesn't meet the stringent hardware compatibility requirements of Windows 11. If you try to upgrade one of those PCs to Windows 11, you'll encounter an error message. And Microsoft is adamant that it will not extend the support deadline for Windows 10.

Option 1: Ignore the end-of-support deadline completely

Option 2: Buy a new PC

Option 3: Ditch Windows completely

Option 4: Pay Microsoft for security updates

Option 5: Upgrade your old hardware to Windows 11

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Education; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: linux; microsoft; pc; ubuntu; windows; windows11; windowspinglist
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To: Still Thinking
I IMMEDIATELY upgraded (yes, upgraded) to W10 LTSC. No Cortana or other bullshit, fewer ‘updates’, and in-support till 2028 or something like that.

That was likely a very good choice and one that most people are not aware of. I am not much of a fan of most of Windows 11s niceties that are meant for people who never have gotten around to learning the finer points. I don't find Windows 11 to be much of a hassle, but I certainly understand your perspective.

Thank you very much for contributing!

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/ltsc/overview

161 posted on 05/20/2024 1:37:24 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: doorgunner69

You are sick. Mentally ill. I have never witnessed someone so ignorant than you. You are a desperate and complete delusional creep. You are so freaking stupid to not realize that we had a twenty year war in Afghanistan and Iraq? You stupid fool!!!!!!!


162 posted on 05/20/2024 1:43:39 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: fireman15
I think you are forgetting that Office dominates that segment

I didn't forget about it. The success of those products has little do do with anything but the same inertia that keeps MS-Windows on almost every corporate desktop. I've been using openoffice for years and no one at work knows or cares. The other thing is "exchange" and "active directory" which most businesses wouldn't know what to do without because they have people in IT who literally don't know anything else. Outside of the office though, most people do =not= use outlook for their personal email, because it is such a fragile product.

I have a spreadsheet that I used to update annually on my website that deals with the national debt going back to 1791, that excel still can't correctly interpret because the years confuse the software.Open/Libre Office has been able to handle it all along, but Microsoft simply doesn't care enough to make a decent product. I have hated that company for decades now, for good reason.

163 posted on 05/20/2024 1:51:46 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: napscoordinator

REMF would explain your frantic attacks for reasons known only to you.
You are too frantic, it is a tell.


164 posted on 05/20/2024 1:55:11 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: doorgunner69

Oh how funny. You change your tune now that you realize what a fool you’ve been. Sorry I wasn’t born to go to Vietnam. My father did. You assumed I was a dinosaur like you. You fool. I did serve in Afghanistan and Iraq. Oops. You forgot we even had those wars. That’s a dang shame.


165 posted on 05/20/2024 2:00:31 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator

What was your branch of service and MOS hero?

I never said you were of RVN age. you started that crap by accusing me of being a draftdodger. For reasons only apparent to you maybe.


166 posted on 05/20/2024 2:14:18 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: napscoordinator

Change my tune napster?

You started this by attacking me. I never posted a thing to you. you are not getting off that easy.

Come on, service branch and MOS


167 posted on 05/20/2024 2:17:24 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: doorgunner69

Oh no. You started it by insulting my FR name because of your ignorance.


168 posted on 05/20/2024 2:50:50 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: doorgunner69

MOS. lol. You are a retard.


169 posted on 05/20/2024 2:51:34 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator

What branch at least napster?
You get more frantic with your insults.

That you did have or do not know what a MOS is confirms you were not Marine Corps or army.


170 posted on 05/20/2024 3:05:54 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: doorgunner69

Obviously the Navy. Why would you ask for a MOS? I was in damage control, legal and then a speech writer. 27 years total. Yes when in afghanistan it was with the army. We went on many missions. Yes I carried. In Iraq, I was in a joint command and pretty much did the same. That was better.

My FR name is Naval Academy Prepatory Coordinator in Annapolis, but traveled to Newport often. Why you were unaware of this is beyond me.


171 posted on 05/20/2024 8:00:55 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator

“Why you were unaware of this is beyond me.”

Why would I GAS?


172 posted on 05/20/2024 10:35:04 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: zeugma
Microsoft simply doesn't care enough to make a decent product. I have hated that company for decades now, for good reason.

I always enjoy a good rant. So, thank you for that. Personally, it took me awhile to understand how excel eventually managed to beat out Lotus 123. I even helped teach a class on 123s programmable macro language, which in my opinion was more capable and easier to use than the early versions of Visual Basic. But of course, Excel was designed to integrate better with Windows... something which initially had little importance to me.

I set up menus using batch files to run the DOS programs that I used most frequently... Initially, I felt Windows was just a glorified menu system. I tried GEOS, Commodore's graphical interface system long before I ever saw a MAC. But it didn't make much of an impression on me despite the hype about graphical user interfaces.

A few years later after I purchased a scanner and the first edition of Photoshop that ran on Windows and needed a mouse along with Cakewalk and other music software along with Office apps and games that worked with Windows I saw the light. Despite all of the niceties associated with Windows it ran on top of DOS which sucked up processing power and memory.

I believe that your “hatred” of Microsoft sounds silly although your observation that inertia has a lot to do with their continued success has merit. Microsoft's products have served me well for years despite the more than occasional frustrations. If the open-source versions of Office type applications meet your needs just use them instead of Microsoft Office. I have them installed in my Linux installations and they work fine.

173 posted on 05/21/2024 12:10:11 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Reno89519

“Linux is not an option for most users, waste of time and effort, “plus the tech downgrade”. All of the Linux users I know have long ago set up Windows computers to use the software and so forth.”

How can you say that with a straight face? That is absolutely not true. Most Linux users never look back once they are free from the ball and chain of MS.


174 posted on 05/21/2024 5:54:20 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: kiryandil; x

“Also, talk with freeper Openurmind”

Headed out of town for a couple days, but PM me and I will absolutely jump in and help if you need when I get back. :)


175 posted on 05/21/2024 6:13:59 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: doorgunner69

That dude is a whackjob. Just an FYI.


176 posted on 05/21/2024 6:59:07 AM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: Openurmind

Like I said, and I have been around Linux since it first came Every single user that I know, for decades, have windows computers to do their business work.


177 posted on 05/21/2024 8:05:39 AM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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To: Reno89519

ONLY because of the MS monopoly and influence over PC manufacturers and software companies. If it were not for the MS crooked lock out contracts it would not be so.


178 posted on 05/21/2024 9:11:25 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: kiryandil

I noticed, fun to toy with for a bit.


179 posted on 05/21/2024 10:58:20 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: fireman15
I believe that your “hatred” of Microsoft sounds silly

I get that. I still remember the moment that I decided Microsoft was evil. I was trying to accomplish something (the actual details will come back to me when I stop trying to think about it), but windows absolutely REFUSED to let me do what I wanted, because they'd take some industry standard term that everyone understood, and twisted it to their own purposes to push their solution (like they did with the term "domain" in the DNS sense). The program knew =exactly= what I meant, but balked me because of their own bloody mindedness.

like I said, the exact details will probably come to me later, but what I recall was how incredibly annoying it was, to no real purpose.

Like you, I ended up making menu systems for people to do stuff back in the early days, mostly based on ".bat' files with tiny support programs copied out of various magazines to do stuff like read key presses, which were passed as errorlevels. The brain-dead batch language was also pretty annoying, since I actually started on computers with MPE-V, which ran on minicomputers at the time and had an amazing batch language that fully understood various conditionals and variables. Once OS2 came out, and had REXX, I was absolutely in love. I could write a rexx script to do stuff for me that would work on my PC, a minicomputer, or mainframe. Too bad IBM couldn't market themselves out of a paper bag.

180 posted on 05/21/2024 1:35:16 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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