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When Windows 10 support runs out, you have 5 options but only 2 are worth considering
ZDnet ^ | April 22, 2024 | Ed Bott

Posted on 05/19/2024 11:57:09 AM PDT by fireman15

Microsoft will officially end support for its most popular operating system in October 2025. Here's what you should do with your Windows 10 PCs before that day arrives.

In less than two years, Microsoft will draw the final curtain on Windows 10 after a successful 10-year run.

That news shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. The end date is right there on the Microsoft Support document that lists "products retiring or reaching the end of support in 2025." The schedule is defined by Microsoft's Modern Lifecycle Policy: "Windows 10 will reach end of support on October 14, 2025. The current version, 22H2, will be the final version of Windows 10, and all editions will remain in support with monthly security update releases through that date."

When a Windows version reaches its end-of-support date, the software keeps working, but the update channel grinds to a halt:

There will be no new security updates, non-security updates, or assisted support. Customers are encouraged to migrate to the latest version of the product or service. Paid programs may be available for applicable products.

That part in the middle sounds encouraging, doesn't it? "Customers are encouraged to migrate to the latest version of the product or service." Unfortunately, that's not a supported option for customers running Windows 10 on hardware that doesn't meet the stringent hardware compatibility requirements of Windows 11. If you try to upgrade one of those PCs to Windows 11, you'll encounter an error message. And Microsoft is adamant that it will not extend the support deadline for Windows 10.

Option 1: Ignore the end-of-support deadline completely

Option 2: Buy a new PC

Option 3: Ditch Windows completely

Option 4: Pay Microsoft for security updates

Option 5: Upgrade your old hardware to Windows 11

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Education; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: linux; microsoft; pc; ubuntu; windows; windows11; windowspinglist
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To: fireman15

Sounds like you have a superiority complex to me. All Hail the great fireman15.


141 posted on 05/20/2024 9:51:14 AM PDT by Revel
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To: ducttape45

The problem is that I know from past experience that fairly shortly after Microsoft “Ends” the life of an operating system then software developers stop writing software to work with it. The most problematic one I have found is that the tax software people will not allow their program to even install.


142 posted on 05/20/2024 10:02:17 AM PDT by Revel
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To: napscoordinator

Being a kindergarten teacher must really stress you out.

All this hate because I do not use Apple stuff and use an older MS operating system?

And you decide I am anit-military because I do not use the operating system of choice for liberals?

Not yet 80 teacher. You are one sick with all sorts of delusions.


143 posted on 05/20/2024 10:09:48 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: fireman15

The really funny thing to me about Microsoft and the marketplace is that the inertia of MS-Windows dominance is almost the entirety of their profits. Every other part of the market, be it phones or tablets has crashed and burned spectacularly. If they didn’t have MS-Windows to fall back on, they would be lost.


144 posted on 05/20/2024 10:14:38 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: doorgunner69

You are a nut case. No im not a teacher you goof. Go drink some more ensure.


145 posted on 05/20/2024 10:27:22 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: daniel1212

I use most of those utilities. But I also use RUFUS to tweak the Windows 11 iso to install it my way. You can also disable the hardware checks this way for older machines. Google “Titus debloat” to tweak your windows 10/11 install. You can remove undesired features and even block updates.


146 posted on 05/20/2024 10:35:12 AM PDT by razzle9251
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To: napscoordinator

Go coordinate someone’s naps weirdo.

You just go raving and making accusation to someone you do not know and has not posted to you?

Seek help teacher, or take more naps.


147 posted on 05/20/2024 10:58:10 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: Revel
That is true, but many of the internet security programs still work and are still updated. Plus I'm fine with my antiquated software (Office 2010, Photoshop CS5 and Acrobat 10). I use Comodo for Windows 7, but I use Windows Defender in W10. It's getting too difficult to turn it off and install Comodo instead to bother with it. Plus Defender does an ok job for as much as I use W10.

As for tax software, yowzer, yeah I see your point. I use an online tax preparer, FreeTaxUSA, for my taxes but I don't own a business or file long complicated tax returns. So I can see the concern there for those who do.

148 posted on 05/20/2024 11:02:16 AM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: razzle9251
I use most of those utilities. But I also use RUFUS to tweak the Windows 11 iso to install it my way. You can also disable the hardware checks this way for older machines. Google “Titus debloat” to tweak your windows 10/11 install. You can remove undesired features and even block updates.

Thanks. I have used RUFUS for making Linux bootable USBs but not Titus debloat, though I see little applicable to my tweaks. Besides other tweaking software, I have hot-keyed Group policy editor and regedit, and saved at lot of scripts. Thank God for all help.

149 posted on 05/20/2024 11:06:41 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: fireman15
Thanks for all the excellent and informative contributions that you have made in this thread.

Thank God for those who provide such!

150 posted on 05/20/2024 11:08:01 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: napscoordinator

Care to explain this raving?

“You anti American jerk. You are shameful and have always been a military hater. Probably a Vietnam go to Canada loser.”

When were you in Viet Nam?


151 posted on 05/20/2024 11:10:56 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: doorgunner69; napscoordinator

Lol, doorgunner69 would be a fantastically weird name for a draft dodger who fled the country, to choose for a forum that he wouldn’t even be on in the first place.


152 posted on 05/20/2024 11:38:09 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: doorgunner69

I’m not ancient like you. But I did a career.


153 posted on 05/20/2024 11:51:26 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: napscoordinator

I asked when you were in Viet Nam


154 posted on 05/20/2024 11:55:24 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: doorgunner69

No.


155 posted on 05/20/2024 11:57:17 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: ansel12

Even more weird is being attacked and accused out of the blue by someone I never post to.

PMS maybe?


156 posted on 05/20/2024 11:59:14 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: napscoordinator

So you were never in a combat zone, but accuse me of being a draftdodger?


157 posted on 05/20/2024 12:01:16 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: fireman15

Option 6: LTSC. My Alienware daily driver came with W11 preinstalled (they switched to 11 right around the time I ordered). I IMMEDIATELY upgraded (yes, upgraded) to W10 LTSC. No Cortana or other bullshit, fewer ‘updates’, and in-support till 2028 or something like that.


158 posted on 05/20/2024 12:30:48 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: zeugma
The really funny thing to me about Microsoft and the marketplace is that the inertia of MS-Windows dominance is almost the entirety of their profits. Every other part of the market, be it phones or tablets has crashed and burned spectacularly. If they didn't have MS-Windows to fall back on, they would be lost.

Your perception has a lot of validity, but there is much more that you may be unaware of. I met Steve Ballmer with his kids while he was CEO of Microsoft and Paul Allen used to come to a dance that my wife and I used to go to every year. They were both sociable and approachable but neither seemed like super geniuses. I also have known quite a few other people who worked for Microsoft in earlier days and made a lot of money... they obviously were smart people but one felt like their success had more to do with them being at the right place at the right time.

My great uncle started out with nothing in the 1920s but became a millionaire by the 1940s and 1950s back when that still meant something... he also was very bright but didn't seem super intelligent.

Timing, having some good ideas and knowing how to capitalize on them is how almost all of these big tech billionaires have come out on top. The true innovators usually are not the ones who have made fortunes.

Microsoft has come up with some good products other than Windows. I think you are forgetting that Office dominates that segment of the market as well, despite many good open-source products that are perfectly adequate for most people. They are also the quiet leader in the AI marketplace; they spent over $11 Billion developing ChatGP and $Billions more on GitHub Copilot and other AI projects.

Yes, Microsoft has had some market failures with phones and tablets... but they have their tentacles in so many other projects that most people just are not aware of like Azure and other cloud-based projects. And it goes on and on. They are a behemoth in many ways that fly under the radar.

All of the big tech giants have well publicized failures, because they all are hoping to use their unimaginable fortunes to dominate the next big thing. The problem is that none of them really have the United States or even the world's best interests in mind and they use their influence in ways that are bad for humanity. This is because power corrupts and those with power and influence always seem to let it go to their heads. The leadership at Microsoft is certainly no exception.

159 posted on 05/20/2024 1:09:40 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Revel
Sounds like you have a superiority complex to me. All Hail the great fireman15.

You would not feel that way if we met in person. I feel freer to share my life experiences here in this mostly anonymous setting and tend to send off whatever comes to my mind. You likely don't come across as an entitled whiny baby in person either. Microsoft is a faceless behemoth that has been the leader for many decades in the OS segment of the computer market. I am not sure of the mechanism, but some other entity will eventually replace them. Some form of Linux? Quite possibly. But Microsoft does not owe you a thing and the stability their dominance has provided has been mostly a good thing.

Superiority complex... it is sometime hard not to come across that way when conversing with someone who seems to have a very narrow focus. You have made some good points in this thread, and you obviously are a thoughtful person with past experience. I suspect that your expertise lies somewhere other than with the finer points of operating systems.

160 posted on 05/20/2024 1:31:09 PM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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