Posted on 05/07/2024 7:01:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
I had forgotten he died in Bangkok. Looking back, he was one weirdo if I ever saw one.
(Seems like a lot of musicians were screwed by their managers.)
Yep! David Bowie’s manager screwed him out of all the money he was making in the 70’s. Bowie finally took command of the situation and fired him then went on to make millions.
Grand Funk Railroad is another classic example of a band that got screwed by their manager.
You’re exactly right.
Leonard Cohen also got swindled by his manager.
Didn’t the Beatles also get screwed by their first manager?
Big time! I just read up on it.
One night in Bangkok can make a hard man humble...
John Fogerty, Tom Petty...and of course, Elvis.
LOL!
Zanz Kant Danz but he’ll steal your money.
Brian Epstein, the Beatles’ first manager, did much to make them a success by insisting that they get properly groomed and adopt a clean image. That helped launch the Beatles from seedy small clubs to larger concert venues, TV appearances, and hit records. By today’s standards, Epstein’s contracts with the Beatles were too lush for him and his business practices were shady and often dishonest. Yet, as the Beatles themselves admitted, they signed their contracts with Epstein without reading them and found the money they actually netted and their success far beyond their expectations.
-PJ
Thanks.
It’s been a long long time now since I paid attention to news about bands and musicians and the details have faded. I knew there was some question about his honesty/ethics but that description of things is true, he had a lot to do with their success.
The Beatles certainly made enough money to make a lot of people rich.
Heard the sleaze was actually a guy named Yantce but John had enough legal trouble just trying to get some of his stolen money back.
Beatles! Unlike "Colonel" Parker Brian Epstein was not just a manager but a genius song collaborator and recording engineer who truly earned the sobriquet "the Fifth Beatle" whom without him would have probably sputtered out before getting out of Liverpool.
Cass Elliot was a hell of a singer. I’ve always liked “Make Your Own Kind of Music.”
It’s very sad if adults really were asking 7-year-old Owen about the circumstances of her mother’s demise. People can be such a-holes.
Many musicians naturally prefer to put friends and hangers on into business and advisory roles instead of finding and hiring the best they can get. Part of the hard lesson for musicians is that good and honest managers, lawyers, accountants, and financial mangers are expensive and are almost always straight laced types who do not live like musicians and lack an artistic temperament.
As for Brian Epstein, the so-called "Fifth Beatle," his commingling of the roles of friend and manager invited problems, as did his amphetamine use. The Beatles have cause for complaint as to Epstein's contract terms and business dealings, but they invited that trouble by their own carelessness. And the Beatles also have reason to be grateful to Epstein for helping bring them from a minor British club act to worldwide phenomenon.
Yes but Carradine’s family couldn’t ‘fix’ his death cert, as it happened in a foreign country. He had gone into a cut rate brothel for kinky stuff, was all strung up and had a heart attack. The ‘service’ people just walked out and left his body there.
She was likely killed. She knew everything about everyone in the music industry.
-SB
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