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Cass Elliot Sandwich Myth Was Manager’s Invention, Says Daughter
UltimateClassicRock ^ | May 6, 2024 | Martin Kielty

Posted on 05/07/2024 7:01:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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There had to have been a cover story than this. How did it protect her legacy?
1 posted on 05/07/2024 7:01:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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I saw Mamma Cass on an old Carol Burnett rerun last week.


2 posted on 05/07/2024 7:03:59 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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Choking on a sandwich is way more embarrassing of a story for an overweight person, than dying of a heart attack, IMHO


3 posted on 05/07/2024 7:04:05 PM PDT by Dr. Zzyzx
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THAT’S his idea of protecting her legacy?!

As if we don’t know about drug, rock n’roll stars and the 60s…

Makes you wonder what kind of manager he was.


4 posted on 05/07/2024 7:04:07 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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If Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter had shared that sandwich, they might both be alive today.


5 posted on 05/07/2024 7:04:39 PM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind bweek.lows too much)
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Bernadette Peters, Mama Cass & Carol Burnett Sing 'You've Got a Friend' | The Carol Burnett Show
6 posted on 05/07/2024 7:06:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Dr. Zzyzx

Could have picked one of the Spinal Tap Drummer deaths:

John “Stumpy” Pepys (1964–1966) Died in a bizarre gardening accident, that the authorities said was “best left unsolved.”

Eric “Stumpy Joe” Childs (1966–1967) Choked on vomit of unknown origin, perhaps but not necessarily his own, because “you can’t really dust for vomit.”

Peter “James” Bond (1967–1977) Spontaneously combusted on stage during a jazz festival on the Isle of Lucy.

Mick Shrimpton (1977–1982) Exploded onstage.

Joe “Mama” Besser (1982) Claimed he “couldn’t take this 4/4 s...”; according to an MTV interview with Spinal Tap in November 1991, he disappeared along with the equipment during their Japanese tour. He is either dead or playing jazz.

Richard “Ric” Shrimpton (1982–1999) Allegedly sold his dialysis machine for drugs; presumed dead.

Sammy “Stumpy” Bateman (1999-2001) Died trying to jump over a tank full of sharks while on a tricycle in a freak show.

Scott “Skippy” Scuffleton (2001–2007) Fate unknown.

Chris “Poppa” Cadeau (2007–2008) Eaten by his pet python Cleopatra.


7 posted on 05/07/2024 7:07:16 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Six of one, half dozen of the other.


8 posted on 05/07/2024 7:12:55 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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I believe the sandwich was considered a myth even back when the death was fresh, or at least shortly after.


9 posted on 05/07/2024 7:14:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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“If Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter had shared that sandwich, they might both be alive today.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

POST OF THE DAY !!!!


10 posted on 05/07/2024 7:14:43 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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She had a crush on a bandmate, but her weight made her unattractive to men.

Her first marriage was of convenience to keep a friend from being drafted. Her second marriage lasted only a few months. The father of her only child was only acknowledged after his death.

A tragic person with a beautiful voice. I can only imagine what drove her compulsion to gluttony with her own body.

-PJ

11 posted on 05/07/2024 7:15:36 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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Come on now. We all KNOW Mama Cass choked to death on a ham sandwich. Why are they trying to cover up the truth after all these years? What they aren't telling you, is the that the fatal sandwich was her third in a row. She was really packing them down that night.

12 posted on 05/07/2024 7:17:27 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Here, here! I second the motion!

13 posted on 05/07/2024 7:18:28 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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Huh. I always thought John Belushi was the one who propagated that “myth”!


14 posted on 05/07/2024 7:19:53 PM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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If they allowed Karen to play the drums, she’d be alive today.


15 posted on 05/07/2024 7:24:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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There had to have been a cover story than this. How did it protect her legacy?
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"Cass Elliot Ham Sandwich Myth Makes Sense to Daughter:
Cameron reported that she’d called Elliot’s manager, Allan Carr, on hearing of the tragedy. “So many of her peers had passed away due to drug overdoses that Carr really wanted to protect her,” Elliot-Kugell continued.” And there was a sandwich that was found there.”

Probably the manager, probably with good reason, suspected that she had died of a drug overdose and came up with this before the autopsy was released to conceal the fact that she was a druggie of some sort. Not a great plan, as we see, because it gives some something to joke about.

16 posted on 05/07/2024 7:28:07 PM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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She had a crush on a bandmate, but her weight made her unattractive to men.

Didn't the Mama's & the Papas survive on her Amex card?

17 posted on 05/07/2024 7:28:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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It’s too late to influence her legacy or her reputation.
Everyone who enjoyed that kind of music back then has moved on. Besides, even as the kid I was then, I could presume that ‘choked on a sandwich’ was just another way of saying she died from the effects of either being as high as a kite or drunk as a skunk.

We had already seen the deaths of several members of “The 27 Club”, which refers to celebrities, mostly musicians who died at the age of 27.
Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Brian Jones, Jim Morrison and other less famous ones.


18 posted on 05/07/2024 7:28:19 PM PDT by lee martell
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Was the ham sandwich ever indicted?


19 posted on 05/07/2024 7:28:38 PM PDT by Round Earther
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Do they still have grand juries in the U.K.?


20 posted on 05/07/2024 7:30:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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