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The founders and framers understanding of the term "natural born Citizen" used in the Article II presidential eligibility clause of our U.S. Constitution was a person born without any foreign influence on them via/at/by birth. That is, a person born with unity of citizenship and sole allegiance to the United States at/by birth. That was because the President was also going to be the Commander in Chief of our military. That was the clear insinuation of the letter sent by John Jay who later became the first Chief Justice of the United States to George Washington, the President of the Constitutional Convention in the summer of 1787 when the U.S.Constitution was drafted: https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Washington/04-05-02-0251

Divided/dual/tiple citizenship and allegiances at/by birth would not be permitted for the future presidents and Commanders in Chief once the founding generation was gone. Natural born Citizens are 2nd generation U.S. Citizens, born in the USA to parents who were both U.S. Citizens (naturalized or born Citizens) when their child was born in the USA. Adjectives mean something. The adjective "natural" in the term "natural born Citizen" denotes a kind of Citizen created by the laws of nature and not man-made laws, acts, amendments, or treaties. See the preeminent legal tomb and treatise on Natural Law at the time by Emer de Vattel which was widely read and used by the founders and framers to justify the revolution and to write the founding documents: https://lonang.com/library/reference/vattel-law-of-nations/vatt-119/ ... and ... https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2023/04/15/my-translation-of-a-key-sentence-in-emer-de-vattels-1758-treatise-on-natural-law-in-section-212-des-citoyens-et-naturels/

1 posted on 05/06/2024 11:40:58 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner
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To: CDR Kerchner

It’s not that it’s nonsense, I just don’t see where that’s in the Constitution. So this means of Donald Trump’s five children only Tiffany Trump is eligible to become President of the United States?


2 posted on 05/06/2024 11:46:13 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: CDR Kerchner

Sir:

I’m 77 and believe I was taught in school in the mid ‘50’s that to be eligible to be president, both of one’s parents were required to be US citizens.

I believe history books since the Obama era have been scrubbed of that definition. Have you searched older history books that support my recollection?

I believe David Barton of “Wall Builders” (wallbuilders.com) has many old history text books. I’ve asked the question on his facebook page but got no response. Perhaps you would have more success.


7 posted on 05/06/2024 1:28:30 PM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: CDR Kerchner

later


9 posted on 05/06/2024 2:11:56 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: CDR Kerchner

Where you are born shouldn’t have any bearing on this. Most of N/S America is the only place countries aru dumb enough to keep this, whether officially or, like these US, by misinterpretation. There is zero reason nowadays to allow us soli. (Originally from colonizing countries trying to boost their overseas populations, make it easier to join.)

The only way you should be able to be a natural born citizen is by being born to two citizens of the country. I would go further and include that neither parent has any active claim to citizenship elsewhere, and both were also born here, not naturalized.


14 posted on 05/07/2024 8:21:04 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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