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To: tired&retired; Mark17
My FRiend, in communicating ideas, to understand each other the parties must share a common definition of the words and the syntax in the language they are using, eh? Going back to the questions that I asked you in my Post #36, I don't feel that I could understand what you were getting at. There was a lot of text but the answer did not seem to be direct and plain the same way the questions were asked.

First, let me say that the English word "love" you used has several dictionary meanings, some of which are not even partially related to other usages of the word.

Secondly, where the Scriptures have come into play in our exchange, the original Koine Greek has seven different words, each of which have been translated with the English "love," and you did not differentiate the sense of what was meant. You might have known what you were talking about, but I didn't; so, if you will, could we please try another approach to see if we can understand each other? Can we try this example from the Bible (it's about the term for God's love)?

At the end of John's Gospel, the Risen Jesus asked Simon Peter directly, "Do you love me more than these?"

What do you think Jesus meant when He asked this question (using your concordance to find the Greek word used there, and its meaning). What kind of answer do you think He was inviting?

Please let me hold back what I think this means so that I don't crowd you on figuring out for yourself what you think it ought to suggest.

I'd be grateful if you wished to give me a briefer non-poetic statement to ponder.

Thank you!

45 posted on 05/04/2024 7:59:35 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: imardmd1

Based upon my observation, allow me to describe agape, the feeling of God’s Love.

The easiest was is to compare it to the bonds in chemistry.

Human love functions similar to a covalent bond where there is a sharing of electrons while both are still attracted to each other through the shared bond.

The feeling associated with human love is one of stability at lower levels of consciousness. For example, security and safety, sex, or validation of ego identity.

Agape Love functions more like an ionic bond where the electrons are borrowed from another element that stabilizes it and strengthens its outer level.

The feeling of bliss in a relationship is caused by a raising up of consciousness to a higher level. It’s a feeling of being lifted up that happens when consciousness expands and is increased in frequency.

In my observations of souls merging in human love, it’s more like the legs on a chair being connected to the seat so that working together, the entire chair is stabilized.

Agape Love appears to lift up that chair to a higher level.

The primary attribute I observe as this happens feels like an increase in voltage associated with the higher consciousness. It’s an intrinsic energy that causes an acceleration of consciousness movement and also generating Light as the higher consciousness moves to a lower level. (Neils Bohr’s obervations with electrons also applies to consciousness levels)

I know you were expecting me to compare agape, eros, philial, familial, and xenia. I view Love as existing on two different axis, horizontal and vertical.

Horizontal Love stabilizes and gives the feeling of wholeness, while vertical Love lifts a person to a higher level on the vertical axis.

The strongest horizontal love is the attraction or chemistry that brings two souls together to assist in healing past soul wounds. The stronger the chemistry or attraction, the more likely it is a merging of souls to use each other as a surrogate dance partner.

Thus, the strongest love in relationships is toward someone who’s personality is similar to someone in our past with whom we have unresolved conflict. It provides an opportunity to remove the obstacle to love in a person’s soul. Unfortunately, the dance often results in a reinforcement event rather than a resolution event.

When I touch the stored memories in a person’s soul where they entered this type relationship, they fall forward toward me as though I am pulling them with a rope. (At the same time I feel the love attached to their stored memory in their soul)

When I touch a stored memory of a relationship breakup, the person falls backward. The distance between the two memories tells me how long the relationship lasted.

When I see the higher consciousness of the Holy Spirit move into a person, it also heals the obstacles to love in the soul, thus lifting it up by removing the low frequency consciousness that acted as an anchor or ballast holding the soul down.

I’ve observed the same movement when I take hold of a sin in a person’s soul and lift it upward in prayer. Even though their eyes are closed and many feet away from me, many times I’ve had it lift the person up on their tip toes.

I cannot remove it, they must release it by healing the wound. I merely bring it into their awareness.

All this is easy to demonstrate with volunteers. It is much more difficult to explain as the complexities and differences in consciousness flow patterns between different souls are great.

The demonstrations have one purpose, i.e. to validate Jesus’s teachings.

PS. I’ve noticed that horizontal love decreases the amplitude of an EEG wave while vertical Divine Love increases the EEG frequency.

It is easier to raise frequency when the soul is first stabilized on the horizontal axis. Thus, a person should go and resolve conflict with others before worshipping God.

When Jesus gave us the first commandment, i.e. Love God, He was speaking of the vertical axis of consciousness. The second commandment, i.e. Love others as thyself, applies on the horizontal axis.

Everything I’m stating is based upon my own experiences with direct observation of consciousness and not the theories of others. Much of what I experience, like higher Divine Love is impossible to describe with words. It must be experienced to understand it.

🙏🙏🙏


53 posted on 05/05/2024 1:44:06 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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