Posted on 05/03/2024 8:00:19 AM PDT by Twotone
The Methodists appear to be on a verge of a Schism over issues of homosexuality.
I know denominations have had schisms in recorded history over various issues.
I never thought that acceptance of homosexuality would ever be such an issue with regard to religious denominations. But yet, that is where we are.
The Bee’s skewering is well-deserved, but in actuality South Korea has many missionaries here in the U.S.
It’s not just the acceptance of homosexuality in the UMC. It’s the celebration of the acceptance of homosexuality in the UMC and the “good riddance” they give to the Methodists who have separated from the UMC.
I’ve never seen such celebration of sin in a “church.” If homosexuality is just fine with God, then so is womanizing, affairs, premarital relations, casual sex, pedophilia, etc.
Yes, I am equating homosexuality to all sexual sin. Yes, I am equating sexual sin to all other sin.
I almost bought this! I had to check if it was the bee!!
We had a couple of Korean pastors at our Methodist church in recent years. The most recent, a graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary (not our own ultra-woke seminary) was a traditionalist who preached that everything in the Old Testament points towards the Cross. However, the church rotates its pastors, and although the current one is a good friend of mine, she's very much a "liberal," as she describes herself.
>> The Methodists appear to be on a verge of a Schism over issues of homosexuality.
Not on the “verge” — it’s already happened. 25%-30% of congregations exited with their property. (The UMC holds essentially all church property in trust but for a brief time congregations could exit with their property if they paid enough ransom, the amount of which varied depending on the annual conference a congregation was in.)
Many of the departing congregations joined into the “Global Methodist Church” — a conservative denomination with Wesleyan Methodist bent. Others went independent or joined one of the other Methodist denoms (Nazarene, Free Methodist, etc.)
Now that the “+/- free exit” time is passed, the UMC will make it VERY costly for a church to exit with its property.
But look for a flood of individuals — and some clergy — to leave the Baal-worshipping UMC and find another church home in the next few years.
The UMC, graying as it is, will be a mere shadow of its former self, essentially dead within a decade.
It’s funny because it’s so true.
(a traditionalist who preached that everything in the Old Testament points towards the Cross.)
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“...affairs, premarital relations, casual sex...”
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I think the Methodists already went down that road a long time ago. Late 1960’s.
Once you start down that road there is no coming back. You just keep going down, and down.
What’s sad is that the UMC really does need Christian missionaries to bring the Word of God to their apostate and heretical souls.
Good one, Bee.
LMAO bump!
It’s just tragic - and, bless them, the African leaders have already said in writing that they will not obey the revisions to the Book of Discipline dealing with sexual deviancy. I fully expect they will leave their church property and keep their churches (which, after all is the people). As The Colonel’s Wife said last night, “They started out meeting under the mango tree, they are well acquainted with worshiping with nothing.” Alleluia.
i did buy it- sad that it sounded so real that its fooling folks- we actually might be considered a nation that needs proselytizing now-
I’ve learned of several foreign Christians being sent to America to evangelize us. Yes; we are that bad.
The article is from the Bee but in reality-land, African Christians should send missionaries to Europe and America. They might start with Hollywood, Stockholm, Oxford, and Chapel Hill, NC.
The Methodist schism has already occurred. The Epworth Congregation in Phenix City, Alabama voted 190 to five to disaffiliate from the UMC and now they have settled into life without the corrupted higher-ups. Of the thousands of congregations that have left, many were the most dynamic that the UMC had. There were other issues as well such as the theology of liberation movement that subverted many Roman Catholics as well as Protestants.
The affirmation that homosexuality is morally acceptable for an ordained elder in the church does in fact signal an openness to every conceivable sin as an appropriate life style for church leaders. These deluded libertarians have codified sin as loved by God.
Bishop Garfield Bromley Oxnam of the UMC said not many years ago, “Your God is my Satan.” As a leading progressive in the UMC he was admonishing an elderly church member that her conservative views were not acceptable. Her response might have been, “Bishop. I might say the same to you.”
Fullerton is an epicenter, if not the actual headquarters, of the Korean missionary effort in America.
Some years ago, I had heard of a discussion of a time when some foreign country would feel the need of sending missionaries to America, which is supposed to be a Christian nation. Even tho this is by the BEE it is apparently true from what I hear.
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