I do not think all of these folks are intentionally lying.
They may not have fully understood what happened to them but that is a long distance from intentionally lying.
There are thousands and thousands of cases like these.
I believe it is an error to dismiss all of them as lies and nonsense.
My opinion is that there is a lot about our environment we do not understand—and clinging to our doctrines about what “must be” is not helping us learn.
The lies are from the people who put the thoughts in their head.