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Col. Douglas Macgregor: Ukraine: What Happens Now? (PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of 32 minute YOUTUBE video)
YOUTUBE ^ | 4/22/2024 | Judge Napolitano, Col. Douglas Macgregor (retired)

Posted on 04/22/2024 4:23:36 PM PDT by ransomnote

Judge Napolitano's - Judging Freedom (YOUTUBE channel hosting the video)

TRANSCRIPT OF FIRST EXCERPT~~~~~~~~~~~

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Over the weekend the Congress of the United States voted to send 61 billion dollars to Ukraine. 20 billion dollars, which was 11 billion more than had been advertised, to the Israelis, 5 billion to the Tiawanese and they made it easier for America's spy agencies to spy on ordinary Americans without suspicion, and without warrants. Does anybody care about the Constitution anymore?

Col Douglas Macgregor: Judge, I don't think they do. I think we live in a post-Constitutional society, sadly.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: What is your view of the danger or recklessness of this 61 billion for Ukraine, recognizing as we do, that the lion's share of it stays here and goes directly into American industry?

Col Douglas Macgregor: Well, Judge, I think a large extent, you've answered your own question.

There are two things at work here, one is obviously the domestic angle, essentially transfering cash from the government to the supporters of the people, the donors to the campaigns of the people who voted for the legislation.

Effectively standing up and waving the Ukrainian flag is a signal, "I got your message, received your re-election campaign contribution, much appreciated." That's about it.

As far as Ukraine is concerned, whatever shows up to Ukraine, as Ambassador Burns and the CIA pointed out some time ago, most of it will disappear into bank accounts around the world for Mr. Zelensky and his little band of men who've been robbing the place blind since they came into power. I imagine that some of it will go to pay what's left of the Ukrainian army, which isn't very much, and to sustain what's left of the administration.

I think the hope is, that somehow or another, this will conceal the complete and utter destruction of the Ukrainian nation which is already well under way, and sadly is going to continue through the summer.

~~~~~END OF FIRST EXCERPT

ransomnote: at 7 minute mark in the video,  Zelensky says that Ukraine has a chance of winning if they get the weapons (he was asked before the vote).

TRANSCRIPT SECOND EXCERPT BEGINS~~~~~

Zelensky (video clip of prior interview on Meet the Press, via translator): I think this support will really strengthen the armed forces of Ukraine. We will have a chance for victory if Ukraine really gets the weapons system which we need so much. We...thousands of soldiers need so much.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Isn't victory impossible at this point without the miraculous appearance of an army of a million men?

Col Douglas Macgregor: There's no chance at all. He hasn't got the personelle, in other words, the people, that are trained and armed to do anything. He can deliver more arms, and he still lacks the human capital.

Right now estimates are that 600 thousand Ukraine have been killed in this war.  I'm talking about soldiers, and again you lose the majority of your force when you are in full retreat, when things collapse. That's when you take most of your casualties. You don't take them when you have an organized structure in place, and trained and well-led troops. But when things fall apart and collapse, that's when the losses occur.

I don't know what else we expected him to say, he's certainly not going to tell the truth. He's got to say, 'Oh this will be terribly helpful' but he caveats it by arguing, 'Well if I don't get these things quickly, it probably won't make alot of difference,' and that's the implication of his statement. Truth is, none of it's going to work.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Well, here she (interviewer) asks him if he's going to ask for more money a year from now. Colonel, before we go to this, is he going to be around a year from now?

Col Douglas Macgregor: No. Absolutely not.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: Here's what he says.

ransomnote: Meet the Press - female interviewer asks at 8:41 in the video for his timeline, and if Zelensky will need the same amount of money this time next year

Zelensky (via translator): The decision to supply f-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, we had it a year ago. One year ago, we got the positive response. Ukraine should receive these (actual?) jets, not only the air defense protects the sky, but we also have modern jets. A year has passed, we still don't have the jets in Ukraine. So it's very difficult to any forecast. I would like us to be open and very very specific. From the moment we get our hands on these weapon systems, well from that moment we can talk about the timeline.

Judge Andrew Napolitano: It's exactly what you told us, as how long it would take for them to train people to use the F16's. Those things were authorized more than a year ago and they're not there yet.

I don't think this current tranche identifies exactly what's coming and who knows what, if anything, is coming, or if it isn't all just intended to enrich the donor class here in the US.

END OF EXCERPT at 10:04 minute mark in 32 minute video

 

 



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KEYWORDS: alwayswrong; brusselsstooge; clintongeneral; eussrgeneral; mcloser
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Zelensky's excuse is already in place - we took too long to fork over the goods.

Zelensky makes it seem like the US just hasn't given them jets promised a year ago, but Ukraine wasn't going to receive them until Ukrainian pilots were trained to fly them - and so the Ukraine doesn't have the jets yet.

1 posted on 04/22/2024 4:23:36 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

MacGregor said the entire Ukraine army had been obliterated, and the war was over.

That was over a year ago.

I don’t predict the war, but I do know MacGregor is a fraud.


2 posted on 04/22/2024 4:35:04 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: ransomnote

Neither Russia or Ukraine will be allowed to end this war. To ensure it doesn’t end, it will be escalated. This is not a Ukraine/Russia war as anyone with a couple of brain cells can see. This is a battle for which fascists get to rule the world. Nothing good can come from it. It must be stopped, or else.

Our only hope of ending this war is a President Trump 2024/47.


3 posted on 04/22/2024 4:35:44 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: ransomnote

From day one I’ve said the very worst case scenario (barring ww3) is for Ukraine to fight to the last man and seeing millions of Slavs die in the process…then lose.

This 60,000,000,000 in weapons just might make that possible now.

Meanwhile we are getting what…5000 illegals a day across OUR borders?…hard to believe.


4 posted on 04/22/2024 5:01:18 PM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: Williams
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Col. Douglas Macgregor: Ukraine: What Happens Now? (PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT of 32 minute YOUTUBE video), Williams wrote:

MacGregor said the entire Ukraine army had been obliterated, and the war was over.

That was over a year ago.

I don’t predict the war, but I do know MacGregor is a fraud.

Macgregor accurately reported that the capacity for the Ukrainian military to win the war had been destroyed, along with its trained forces. Since then, NATO has been providing the optics to make it seem like the Ukraine still has an economy and a military, even while FReepers report watching a 70 year old disabled man being forcibly conscripted off the street, along with 13 year old boys. The show 'must go on' according to NATO, so the US continues to provide the only financial backbone the Ukraine has - with the Ukraine's workforce fled, dead or injured and its electrical grid shutting down permanently, along with electronics plugged into it. Macgregor was right - the MSM NATO psyops is wrong.


5 posted on 04/22/2024 5:05:56 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

WOW! “judge” Napolitano and “colonel” Macgregor both in the SAME video: ALMOST a hat trick of nutjobbery ...


6 posted on 04/22/2024 5:11:04 PM PDT by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: Williams

“but I do know MacGregor is a fraud.”

Totally agree.


7 posted on 04/22/2024 5:15:26 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Williams

You might know something about frauds.....


8 posted on 04/22/2024 5:17:10 PM PDT by vivenne
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To: vivenne

I do.


9 posted on 04/22/2024 5:18:28 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Me too.


10 posted on 04/22/2024 5:18:48 PM PDT by vivenne
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To: ransomnote

You are so fos it’s exhausting.


11 posted on 04/22/2024 5:20:34 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: ransomnote

COL. DOUGLAS MACGREGOR interview with Tucker Carlson.

transcript of “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on March 1, 2022
“Now, his goal, as we see it, at the moment, is to seize this entire area of eastern Ukraine. That’s pretty clear. He is going to roll up to that river, up near Kyiv, he has actually moved over the river and is preparing to go in and capture that city entirely.”

“Russian forces have now maneuver to encircle and surround the remaining Ukraine forces and destroy them, through a series of massive rocket artillery strikes, airstrikes with Russian armor then slowly, but surely closing the distance and annihilating what’s left.

So this is a — this is the beginning, frankly of the end of Ukrainian resistance.”


12 posted on 04/22/2024 5:39:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ransomnote

You are wasting your time. The vast majority of the fools around here don’t want to hear the truth.


13 posted on 04/22/2024 6:10:43 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: ansel12

NATO and BIDEN will not allow the end of resistance, even though militarily, there’s no chance of resistance working. NATO/US will simply keep the show going, keep collecting funds, and claim that if we send money, the Ukraine can win. It’s all a lie. Ukraine lost the ability to prevail a long long time ago - now all they can do is die because NATO/Biden won’t let them negotiate.


14 posted on 04/22/2024 6:12:11 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Williams

Williams is a fraud.


15 posted on 04/22/2024 6:19:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Coming)
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To: hardspunned

There are many Zeepers on FR. Why they believe the lies is beyond me. Willful blindness? $? Hacked accounts?


16 posted on 04/22/2024 6:21:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Coming)
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To: ransomnote

Zelensky’s going to the Ukrainian middle schools to find the patriotic army to fight the Russians


17 posted on 04/22/2024 6:21:54 PM PDT by struggle
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To: ransomnote

I don’t know why you posted that to me, it has nothing to do with my post quoting Macgregor making his analysis and prediction days after Russia launched its invasion.


18 posted on 04/22/2024 6:22:03 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: little jeremiah
Hacked accounts?

By coincidence, I was thinking the same about some of the Russian supporting accounts.

19 posted on 04/22/2024 6:35:06 PM PDT by Widget Jr (Hacked accounts?)
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To: Phoenix8

If they don’t fight to the last man the Russians will kill them all off as prisoners, like they have done before.

Expecting the Ukrainians to just quit fighting while being invaded and everything will turn out fine is like expecting the Jews in WW2 to lay down their arms in the hopes the Nazis would let them live instead of turning them into ashes.

Expecting the Russians to honor a peace deal is like being an American Indian and expecting the latest land giveaway treaty will satisfy the settlers.

Now that they have gone into Ukraine, to keep it Russia will have to change its demographics completely.


20 posted on 04/22/2024 7:00:40 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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