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I think it was self defense and those brats got what they deserved. However, manslaughter doesn't seem unreasonable. Ridiculous to charge him with murder 1. They convicted him of 1 count of battery. Apparently, the jury believed Miu pushed, hit, or slapped the girl who was yelling at him, and that was partly responsible for him being attacked.
1 posted on 04/11/2024 9:46:47 AM PDT by xxqqzz
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I wasn’t on the jury, but this is far from Murder 1.


2 posted on 04/11/2024 9:49:26 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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I would have acquitted on all charges then charged the mob.

We live in dangerous times folks. Even if you defend yourself, legitimate self defense......the woke Government and mob will come after you. Makes one think twice about ever using anything to stop a threat......just run I guess. Just run..


3 posted on 04/11/2024 9:51:33 AM PDT by vespa300
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Miu didn’t help himself by leaving the scene, getting rid of the knife and lying about it.

Having said all that, I guess he was just supposed to let 13 drunken idiots assault him at will?

A lot of blame to go around on this but I really do feel for him.


4 posted on 04/11/2024 9:53:34 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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The jury came out with a compromise verdict. It certainly wasn’t first degree murder which was ridiculous to charge him with. Personally I consider what he did self defense.


6 posted on 04/11/2024 10:02:49 AM PDT by jimwatx
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reckless?

But it was intentional. So what is that?


7 posted on 04/11/2024 10:05:23 AM PDT by Revel
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As a potential juror, I hereby pledge that I will never convict anyone of any crime for taking out the trash.


10 posted on 04/11/2024 10:10:03 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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I watched much of the trial video over the past few nights. I really thought that the jury would find him not guilty.

53-year-old man who never before had any kind of criminal record, not even a speeding ticket according to his lawyers.

The way those kids taunted him and shoved him around in the water for no good reason is despicable. In that situation, he evidently completely lost it, but if the kids only left him alone, none of this would have ever happened and this man would likely have continued living a law-abiding life.

Kids have no respect for adults these days. This verdict will only result in more of this behavior.

As for the friend who told him to bring his knife that day (in order to cut twine on the rafts), what a horrible thing to have to live with. I think it was the same friend who lost his phone in the water, which is why Miu was over there in the first place.

15 posted on 04/11/2024 10:35:17 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (6,575,474 Truth | 87,429,044 Twitter)
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This is just a crap situation all around. If anything , the friends of the guy who was killed should be charged with manslaughter.


16 posted on 04/11/2024 10:40:57 AM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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Adding charges after the trial starts? Totally unfair—that should be grounds for overturning the verdict.


18 posted on 04/11/2024 11:20:19 AM PDT by Chicory
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Stay out of that county and state. No vacations, business or even to go to visit. Those folk are nuts and wish Canada would absorb the entire state.


21 posted on 04/11/2024 12:07:18 PM PDT by dhouston
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In the comments on the videos, they are saying Miu will spend his last days in prison, which doesn’t seem accurate. He is 54, and not sure what he gets for manslaughter and 4 counts on endangerment. He has been in prison for 2 years. I guess they denied bail since he was charged with murder 1. That is probably why he lost all that weight, the prison food.

The area this happened is in WI, but about 40 minutes from downtown Minneapolis. Twin Cities’ suburbs aren’t huge like some bigger cities’.


25 posted on 04/11/2024 3:02:56 PM PDT by xxqqzz
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