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Do Boeing 777 And Dreamliner 787 Aircraft Also Have Quality Issues? The FAA Is Investigating New Claims...Boeing has hit back, noting it has rigorous processes in place.
Simple Flying ^ | April 10, 2024 | AARON BAILEY

Posted on 04/10/2024 10:59:33 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Reno89519
How long until we see AirBus trying to destroy an American business, which they've tried before.

The Boeing pile-on is getting very suspicious.

I don't think Airbus wants to see Boeing go away. The result would not be a monopoly of narrow body and wide body civilian transport planes. It would be the emergence of a new competitor like the Chinese company COMAC to replace Boeing as part of a duopoly.

21 posted on 04/10/2024 12:14:38 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Reno89519

How much of Boeing is basically controlled by the government?


22 posted on 04/10/2024 12:18:25 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: oil_dude
I do not trust the carbon fiber fuselages either....remember, the hull of the Titanic mini-sub was carbon fiber

The pressures experienced by deep diving submersibles is orders of magnitude higher than those experienced in airplanes. I wouldn't worry about worry about flying in a composite fuselage plane. Composite components have been flying on commercial aircraft for decades.

23 posted on 04/10/2024 12:21:46 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Red Badger
The 787 has had known barrel join issues for several years now.

The 777X has known problems with the structure and certification has been delayed from an initial target of 2020 to an estimated 2025.

24 posted on 04/10/2024 1:04:25 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Reno89519
The Boeing pile-on is getting very suspicious.

Agree 100% This smells like a week old fish. The media is predictably finding whistleblowers looking for their 15 minutes of fame.

Airbus has a whole lot to gain and I'm sure the news releases coming from euro sources is not a coincidence either.

And we have our own parrots on FR who think they are witty by getting in the best bash comment first instead of (gasp) actually reading anything more than a headline.

25 posted on 04/10/2024 1:17:48 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Red Badger
Having a bit of a background in aircraft maintenance and also construction, my feeling is that even good, safe aircraft are not necessarily perfect.

And, sometimes components fail (which is why we have redundancy in design)

I've flown on every Boeing (707,720, 727,737,747,757,767,777 and even B-17) except for the 787, and I hope to do so before too long.

I think that awareness of "issues" is a good thing, and so are good faith efforts to control and minimize them.

Maybe some extra scrutiny is called for for all major A/C constructors, not just Boeing.

I do believe, however, that we should stop short of a feeding frenzy, as that could let the trivial get in the way of the potentially critical.

26 posted on 04/10/2024 3:29:13 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: z3n
What number is Boeing going to use after 797 ?

Their originally proposed 797 (NMA - New Midsized Aircraft) - intended as a 757 replacement - is exactly what the market is clamoring for right now.

Boeing's management geniuses decided not to build it, guessing that the proposed and as yet uncertified 737 MAX 10 would be the cheaper and better option.

Airbus has already gobbled up the entire mid-market with its newer A321 Neo and XLR variants. Developing a 797 at this point would do Boeing little good, unless it is some kind of radical new design that knocks the whole industry on its ear.

I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to guess how likely that is. :)

27 posted on 04/10/2024 3:40:21 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Red Badger

Yeah, DEI & Wokeness


28 posted on 04/10/2024 3:51:46 PM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: lurk

“Boeing is what happens when the bean counters shush the engineers.”

My grandfather was chief attorney for Hughes Aircraft in the early 50’s. He had a staff of about 30 people for the entire company. The engineering team was at least 10x that. Now, the aircraft companies have more attorneys than engineers.


29 posted on 04/10/2024 9:26:41 PM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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To: Red Badger

Yeah,don’t hire the most qualified,
Gots to have that inclusion bull crap
So hire the pink haired trans whatever
Quality control ? Nahhh


30 posted on 04/11/2024 5:05:29 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Kimber .45 Be Kind.)
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Boeing faces new FAA probe over 787 Dreamliner inspections, falsified records

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20240506-boeing-faces-new-faa-probe-over-787-dreamliner-inspections-falsified-records

“The FAA is investigating whether Boeing completed the inspections and whether company employees may have falsified aircraft records,” the agency said. “At the same time, Boeing is reinspecting all 787 airplanes still within the production system and must also create a plan to address the in-service fleet.”

The issue surfaced after a Boeing employee observed an “irregularity” and raised the issue with a supervisor who elevated it further.

“We quickly reviewed the matter and learned that several people had been violating company policies by not performing a required test, but recording the work as having been completed,” Scott Stocker, head of the Boeing 787 program, said in an email to staff.

“We promptly informed our regulator about what we learned and are taking swift and serious corrective action with multiple teammates,” said Stocker, adding that engineering staff determined that the issues does not pose an immediate safety of flight risk.


31 posted on 05/07/2024 7:09:28 AM PDT by Texan4Life
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