Posted on 03/15/2024 3:42:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
How feminist women have been seriously misunderstood.
-Feminism is often misrepresented as an anti-men ideology.
-Misogynistic men use the misandry trope as just cause for threats and abuse toward feminist women.
-Research shows that feminists do not hold more hostility toward men than non-feminists or other men.
-For women’s safety, it is important to resist and dispel misperceptions of feminism as anti-men.
Feminists hold a strong belief that patriarchy harms everyone, including men, and that liberation will be had by all when we dismantle patriarchy and the sexist oppression it props up. Despite that, feminists remain seen by some as little more than man-hating misandrists.
Misandry refers to prejudice, discrimination, or hatred directed toward men that is rooted exclusively in their gender. Opponents of feminism, both men and women, believe that feminists are misandrists who serve only to create division and “gender wars.” Contemporary U.S.-based polls indicate that almost 50 percent of men and women view feminism as an ideology that unfairly penalizes men for women’s issues (Barraso, 2020; Hamel et al., 2016).
Even among feminists, there is some divide about whether misandry exists and, if it does, whether it is useful. Some feminists believe that outrage and anger toward men are useful for keeping the boot to the throat of oppressive systems that impede women’s liberation (Agostini & van Zomeren, 2021; Morgan, 2014). Other feminists, however, view those mechanisms as antithetical to the feminist movement, citing the need to invite and include allies in the work of fighting injustice toward women (hooks, 2000).
The public perception of feminists as misandrists has real-world consequences. Indeed, a rising cohort of men who identify as “men’s rights activists” or MRAs view themselves as an oppressed class, and name feminists as their oppressors (Pry & Valiente, 2013). Their contempt toward feminist women has escalated, with these men believing that both digital and physical intimidation or abuse of feminists is the natural consequence of their man-hating behavior (Beale et al., 2019; Diaz & Valji, 2019). But are their perceptions of feminists as misandrists valid, or simply a fabrication from their own minds?
Contemporary Research on Misandry in Feminism
A recent study (Hopkins-Doyle, Peterson, Leach et al., 2024) revealed that misandry as a feminist trait appears to be a myth. Their research, spanning across six studies and including almost 10,000 participants, provided several key insights about feminism and misandry. First, they found that feminist women, on the whole, do not hold any harsher opinions of men than non-feminist women or other men.
Second, feminists actually tend to hold a positive regard for men, but unsurprisingly, that regard is mediated by how safe or threatening they perceive a man to be.
Third, they found that feminists generally perceive men as fundamentally similar to women, and that the differences we see in our genders have more to do with the ills of patriarchy than core differences in our natures. Their issue, then, is with patriarchy and the sexist oppression it upholds, rather than with men directly.
Finally, and perhaps most importantly when it comes to men’s perceptions of misandry, feminist women in the study were not significantly more hostile toward men than non-feminist women, but were significantly less benevolent toward them. This indicates that although feminist women do not hold hostile views toward men, they are less likely than non-feminist women to coddle men, to give them a pass for their intentional harms, or to practice meekness and humility when correcting them. This suggests that men—particularly those who spend time in MRA circles—perceive feminist women’s refusal to capitulate to men as a sign of hostility and misandry, which, it should be noted, is not accurate.
What Does This Tell Us About the Future of Feminism?
Misandry is a myth. Although it is true that there are some feminists who identify as misandrists, those women are the exception, not the norm. To those men who apply “not all men” arguments to every discussion about men’s harms toward women, this should be a relatively easy concept for them to grasp.
There is some empirical evidence suggesting that women are more likely to identify as misandrists when they have first gained consciousness of their own oppression (Downing & Roush, 1985). Over time, as they become more aware of the systems that underpin sexism and sexist oppression in a patriarchal culture, they disengage from the hatred of individual men and begin engaging with systems instead. If misandry exists at all, it appears to be a belief system with a short half-life that exists in only a small portion of all self-identified feminists.
Men who are dedicated to viewing feminists as misandrists may never be convinced otherwise. However, since those men view their misguided perception of misandry as a justifiable excuse for threatening and abusing women, we must try to dispel these misconceptions anyway. To keep women safe, perhaps feminists who have realized that fighting systems is better than fighting individual men should engage compassionately with women who aren’t there yet. They should gently urge those women to channel their anger and outrage toward dismantling systems of oppression that can actually lead to our liberation, rather than espousing hate toward individual men, or men as a whole. It is not a matter of protecting men’s egos, but rather of keeping women safe. After all, anger is a worthy, valid, and useful tool in the feminist movement. But perhaps, for our safety, it is just better reserved for the systems of power.
No doubt, part of challenging those systems will mean engaging with individual men who do not support our liberation. In those scenarios, anger is justified and perhaps even necessary. So, a safe and successful future for feminist women may mean applying anger and outrage where they are useful, fighting systems of power rather than individuals, and resisting misinformed stereotypes that depict feminists as misandrists.
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“Of course it is. The WNBA is different than the NBA, the LPGA is different than the PGA. Women have teed it up & have played in PGA golf tournaments with men, but didn’t win, so they didn’t earn as much money. In facts, not one female made the 36 hole cut.\
More females choose to be public defenders than males, who tend towards more lucrative law practices such as corporate law or ambulance chasing. Males work many more hours than females when they own their own businesses and when they work for others as plumbers and such.
It’s fake news and fake statistics—-ie, total income of females versus total income earned by males, then divide by the number of heads, for a “per capita” number. And then there are feminists who insist that office typists, order takers etc should get paid the same as heavy equipment/machinery operators. Males tend to do more dirty and dangerous jobs because they pay more, eg roofers and window washers, etc. Women often do not apply for those jobs, opting for teacher aids and day care workers…..or to be octomooms, be unwed mother welfare queens, who produce nothing but babies but still manage to get paid for it…..but their income from welfare, tax free child support isn’t even counted!
The same happened with the fake story about the “shrinking middle class” based on a faulty if not fraudulent survey by two French commies who claimed that Reaganomics led to a huge disappearance of the middle class——not even considering immigration effects of importing poverty or allowing illegitimacy to explode . …or the fact that females were going to college and becoming professionals or business owners. The survey was about “Household income” and had glaring omissions,……but liberals and their fake news still pretend the study was not debunked. It counted only “wage, salary and tip” income from individual tax returns, even though the success of supply side economics was entrepreneurs and new businesses, who file business tax returns and do not fie individual tax returns…..and it did not count Social Security and Medicare income……so people who retires were listed as moving from middle class to poverty——and females were outliving their husbands and living into their 90s, so they were counted as being mired in abject poverty for many years, a household could be one unwed mother with no income and another “household” can be a household of a husband and wife lawyers or doctors…..the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer! So states started aggressively raising their minimum wage, but “small business” doesn’t have to pay minimum wage, so Mom and Pop rich Mexicans can get their minority loan or grant to start a new business and hire illegal immigrants at less than minimum wage and not have to pay Obamacare, either …especially if they work only part time.
Trump was right when he called fake news the enemy of the people . The lies they spread cause dangerous things to happen., especially when politicians believe them. Joe Biden believes all the lies spread by the media trying to get him elected. Often times the press knows it’s a lie, but the politician doesn’t.
And remember Ellen Goodman spreading all those ridiculous feminist claims? She dismissed Bill Clinton’s sexual assault on a State of Arkansas employee during her work day as “making a pass”.
And she reported as fact a study made about how a housewife/homemaker’s labor was worth about $135,0000 —-now, about $250K with inflation…..so being a housewife was being a slave laborer, completely exploited by a man. First of all, it only proves that liberals know nothing about free market fact that NOTHING is worth more than anybody can or will pay her. But the implication was clear——and completely elitist: if your husband doesn’t make at least $200,000 per year, then he is not pulling his own weight. This was meant to make homemakers feel exploited and hate their husbands for taking advantage of them. And it was pure fraud—-claiming that housewives should get paid for sex, cooking, cleaning, attending to children’s boo boos, etc….as if the hubby didn’t pay for the pots, pans and electricity ,….property tax, schools, police and fire protection……free room and board, vacations and sick days, pay for all her children’s clothes, food, dentist and doctor bills, etc,…..or as if she woudn’t have to cook and clean if she were single or a single mother. It is the taxpayer who is exploited having to support unwed mothers and immigrant babies getting those generous GOP child tax credits. And Obama’s refundable tax credits for people who get tax refunds even though they didn’t pay any taxes.”———a friend wrote this response on this subject
I’ve always loved that pic but was unaware of the painful back story. That’s one where you’d almost rather not know.
Hey man, you need to attribute this toxic filth to the person who dumped it....
“Amber Wardell Ph.D.
Compassionate Feminism”
You’re welcome.
Actually, I started working when I was 18. I’m going to be 80 this year. Employers got away with pretty much whatever they wanted then. Things are much different now.
Actually, I started working when I was 18. I’m going to be 80 this year. Employers got away with pretty much whatever they wanted then. Things are much different now.
Yes. Shotokan karate and Southern Chinese White Crane Kung Fu (seven years with a genuine Chinese grandmaster who was a living legend in the Oriental community where I lived at the time.)
Concur. I’m very conservative and no one ever mistook me for a man or trying to look like one. It’s rather comical to see brilliant analysts assessing someone’s personal situation or philosophy in one post.
You started work about 61 years ago and there is no reason to think you were being underpaid at that job.
“In 1963, the Equal Pay Act enshrined into law equal pay for equal work, explicitly prohibiting pay discrimination on the basis of sex.”
A more interesting history than mine!
What form of martial arts did you practice?
You actually believe that employers complied with every law? Do you believe that employers comply with labor laws now?
I think you are trying to play victim and not doing it very convincingly.
None at all. I relied on cuteness for defense!
You seem rather naive for an adult.
Lol! Some of us couldn’t carry that off.
Like I said, you aren’t very convincing.
Rule no.4—do you rely on that frequently?
Post 90 has set you off, but days of this?
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