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To: enumerated

There are problems..

On average are blacks less intelligent? Or are the testing methodologies biased?

IQ tests always make me laugh, because I can recall in high school they gave us one and one of the questions had 2 men in space suits on the moon trying to communicate, one was using a light and the other was using a bell... well the teacher left the room and some of the students started discussing this problem and what was the right answer.

The logic argued was the bell would be harder to hear because they had on helmets so it must be the light... So those that listened go the question correct, but got it correct for the wrong reasons. (With no atmosphere/air sound won’t travel, so the bell is useless). So, while I don’t doubt you can test IQ, and that IQ is a measurable thing, it also became blindingly apparent that IQ tests themselves have flaws.

I think you take a kid from a inner city dumbed down school and administer him an IQ tests, he’s going to score generally poorer than an equivalent kid educated in a suburban or rural school, on average, and certainly lower than a kid educated in a private school where high expectations are the norm.

So, are blacks generally lower IQ? Or suffering from other issues social or educational issues.. My personal opinion is likely BOTH.. but which is the bigger contributor to their poor performance? I’d say likely their poorer education.

I suspect, that if you could actually get rid of these other issues, you would find the actual intellectual ability deviation is not nearly as pronounced, but does still exist to a certain extent on the macro.

Same can be said of whites vs asians... asians always score higher on average on IQ tests, but is it intelligence or social/societal issues. Their societies and cultures do not accept dumbed down expectations, they almost exclusively have 2 parent households and schooling and excellence is generally a high priority and expected... If you could normalize these I would bet the IQ differential between whites and asians would probably still exist, but to a much lesser degree.


90 posted on 03/13/2024 12:46:44 PM PDT by HamiltonJay ( )
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To: HamiltonJay

As far as intelligence tests are concerned I believe that they only measure certain facets of intelligence. It’s like using somebody’s time in running the 100 yard dash and using that as a measure of total athletic ability. Sure speed is a major asset in sports but many without it still excel depending on the sport.


96 posted on 03/13/2024 12:54:25 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: HamiltonJay

You need to add that black culture frowns on “acting white” and that, sadly, includes getting an education, working hard, showing up on time (or at all), being respectful of bosses and elders, containing rage, etc.


98 posted on 03/13/2024 12:56:00 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: HamiltonJay

I get your point that IQ is not a true measurement of intelligence.

Personally, whether whites or blacks are smarter is not something I would even think about. Who cares? The question of whether blacks commit more crime - that I think is relevant to my safety.

But there’s another issue here: freedom of speech and thought.

Once the question gets asked, it really bothers me that it’s a no-no to talk about it or even think about it.

In life we have to make judgements and use generalizations as best we can, otherwise we are going to walk into danger or miss opportunities.

I don’t like the current trend that we are supposed to ignore certain facts out of political correctness.

I don’t care if it turns out blacks are smarter than whites - I just think it should be OK to ask the question - knowledge is everything..


121 posted on 03/13/2024 2:16:09 PM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: HamiltonJay

I get your point that IQ is not a true measurement of intelligence.

Personally, whether whites or blacks are smarter is not something I would even think about. Who cares? The question of whether blacks commit more crime - that I think is relevant to my safety.

But there’s another issue here: freedom of speech and thought.

Once the question gets asked, it really bothers me that it’s a no-no to talk about it or even think about it.

In life we have to make judgements and use generalizations as best we can, otherwise we are going to walk into danger or miss opportunities.

I don’t like the current trend that we are supposed to ignore certain facts out of political correctness.

I don’t care if it turns out blacks are smarter than whites - I just think it should be OK to ask the question - knowledge is everything..


122 posted on 03/13/2024 2:16:39 PM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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